The Problem is the software right now cannot handle the 4K processing of Red's codec in full resolution preview yet due to the processing latency of the player and codec. You are going to have to preview in half Resolution with Adobe right now and that would be even with a rocket card. I am not sure who told you that full res preview was possible in Adobe with Red 4K but that is not correct. Only Red Cine with GPU acceleration for debayering is allowing that right now. There are many waiting for Red to release an SDK that will be used to add the GPU debayering to applications such as Premiere or Davinci but dont expect that any time soon. That process takes quite some time normally and Red is still developing their acceleration.
Do you really need full resoultion for editing?
I remember earlier users have a problem with mixing Quadro cards with GeForce cards because they do not use the same drivers.
Such a mix of cards Quadro, GeForce and Red Rocket could be confusing Premiere.
What version of Premiere?
Is your description for multiple systems? I have never seen two different CPU's in one system
Thank you for responding.
So is there an editing software for my machine that would allow me to do 4k full res, no rendering?
The machine, by right, should be able to handle the work load. Correct?
I would have never paid this much for a machine if I had known what I wanted to do was not possible with the software.
For that matter, I would have just stayed with my Macbook Pro and iMac and just went through the pain of making proxy files. Expecially since all I can see is half resolution.
Also, even when I do playback in half res it still drops or skip frames. Not as many, but I still thought that with this system and sofware I should have no problem pushing 4k at half. Right?
Cs6 and CC. No luck with either.
The system listed is one system built by ProMax.
They say its the most powerful machine in the world.
I just want to edit 4k like I edit 1080.
Eric is the expert on something like this.
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Right now there is not any editing software that can handle Red 4K full res. Red CineX Pro is Red's utility. They may be building to an editor eventually but it's not that yet.
The System you have by spec is close to the ideal choice for Red media in a long form or complex project/AE comp workflow. Those specs would give you the best realtime performance ceiling you will get with Red 4K/5K. That means more FX or complex sequences are able to playbackr ealtime without rendering. I would definitely have selected a different SSD OS drive and dropped the Quadro k5000 especially with the Blackmagic card in there. Having the 2 video cards with the Rocket and Blackmagic card besides the Raid card was a bad idea. That is more than saturating the PCI-E bandwidth and adding to the latency which is likely part of the reason your half resolution playback is not good. I have a single 12 Core Xeon E5 2697 V2 on a X79 board with 32GB of ram and that handles 4 layers of R3D 4K at half resolution with a 770GTX 4GB card. That Titan card should be chewing that media up at 1/2 res especially with the red card. When I did testing with the Red cards the load on the Dual Xeon's with the Titan was less than 10% with 4 layers of Red 4K in Premiere. Likely part of the problem is the Quadro is currently being used for the GPU acceleration instead of the Titan. You have to go into the Nvidia Control Panel and set the CUDA GPU to the Titan for GPU acceleration. That is under Manage 3D settings. By default Adobe uses the GPU that outputs to the main monitor for Windows unless this is changed to a specific card. Beyond that you will probably have to remove 1 of those video cards soon.
The workflow absolutely can be in Red and Proxy is not worth the trouble. If you can proxy then there is no reason you should be able to native with 2K preview. I would much rather have the 2K preview with 4K native workflow than proxy head aches.
Hope that helps. You can contact me directly if you have questions. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org
Eric, I can't tell you how helpful you have been.
This has been a very disappointing 6 months trying to make this work.
I'll shoot you an email.