12 Replies Latest reply: Oct 9, 2014 10:08 PM by rob wallis RSS

    Suggestions for FrameMaker 13

    ksoltys Community Member

      I missed the deadline for participating in the feature survey that Adobe sent me recently, so I put up a post on my blog about things I'd like to see in FrameMaker 13. Some of them are extensions of what I wanted to see in FrameMaker 12 (only a few of which were taken care of).

       

      The post is on the long side so I'm just going to link to it here:

       

      http://www.soltys.ca/blog/2014/03/suggestions-for-framemaker-13.html

       

      I will summarize my three major requests:

       

      • Seamless import and export of Microsoft Word files and content. Word is dominant in offices today and has been for years, but using content provided in Word format is a nightmare.
      • Better marker handling. Marker handling in FrameMaker is primitive. We need exapndable/collapsibe markers, editable in place, and a proper marker editing dialog.
      • A snapshot feature akin to that in Thirty Six Software's SmartDocs Word addin. Set variable values, conditional text settings, input and output directories and output formats and save them as a single object so we can switch between multiple views of a book with a single click.

       

      As much as I love FrameMaker, and I've been using it for 20 years, it's getting harder to justify it, especially because of my first point.

       

      Regards

      Keith

        • 1. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
          Eric Bleak Community Member

          May I also add putting a switch into the PASTE function so that you can set the default Paste as "Paste as Plain Text".

          95% of all PASTE operations I do require this,and going through the inane choice box is a constant irritant.

           

          Yes, a Frame user for 14 years, I really like using Frame, but wow, let's catch up with the times, shall we...

           

          Thanks for listening.

          Eric

          • 2. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
            Arnis Gubins CommunityMVP

            The paste hierarchy is controlled by the setting in the maker.ini file for:

             

            ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, MIFW, MIF, RTF, OLE 2, META, EMF,  DIB, BMP, UNICODE TEXT, TEXT

             

            just move the "TEXT" component to the start of the list, i.e.

             

            ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, UNICODE TEXT, FILE, MIFW, MIF, RTF, OLE 2, META, EMF,  DIB, BMP

             

            and you';ll get what you want. FM's always worked like that.

            • 3. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
              Eric Bleak Community Member

              Thanks for the help, but it still doesn't work...Still inserts as formatted text.

               

              And... Frame Interchange Format remains at the top of the list:

              Frame Paste.JPG

               

              Ready to keep going after it if you have any more ideas.

               

              Eric

              • 4. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                Mike Wickham Community Member

                Don't forget to close FrameMaker before making changes to maker.ini.

                • 5. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                  Eric Bleak Community Member

                  Oh you bet.

                  In the same way that it's not advisable to leave power on when you're removing circuit cards... (hopefully the reference from a past life is not too obscure...)

                  • 6. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                    Arnis Gubins CommunityMVP

                    What you're displaying is the Edit > Paste Special (ctrl + shift + v) option . The maker.ini setting affects the standard Paste (ctrl + v) operation only, which is what you were asking about in your query.

                     

                    Also, the list items in the Paste Special window are selectable by character matches, so "ctrl_shift + v", then "t" and Enter will paste in pure text.

                    • 7. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                      Eric Bleak Community Member

                      Yes, and making that change (exactly as specified) in the maker.ini file did not change the default ctrl+v operation....It still pastes as formatted text, no matter what the source.

                       

                      However..

                      ."ctrl_shift + v", then "t"

                      THIS is very, very, VERY helpful. Thank you!

                       

                      Too bad there isn't an updated, printable version of the old Quick Reference Card available online. (The last one I have was Publication # 9003 7318.)

                      • 8. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                        Arnis Gubins CommunityMVP

                        Hmm..., works for me (except for internal FM content, which always is in MIF format on FM's own internal clipboard). I can copy and paste from Word and all formatting is stripped when pasting using ctrl+v.

                         

                        Check the user-specific maker.ini in the C:\Users\<login name>\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\12 folder to see if there is a different specification there (as this maker.ini is read last and overrides the master one in the FM install location).

                        • 9. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                          Eric Bleak Community Member
                          except for internal FM content, which always is in MIF format on FM's own internal clipboard

                          Yes! This is the function I need to change to a text-only-without-formatting paste.

                           

                          Imagine comparing for objects, A, B, C, and D. I will write the comparison as A does not have the features of C, however, D and B do... If you imagine inserting a fourteen-character part number in the place of each of these capital letters, you can see how the lack of a text-only-without-formatting paste function can get really tedious - especially when inserting into tables that use a different formatting. .

                           

                          Thank you all for the shortcut, it helps tremendously!

                           

                          Eric

                          • 10. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                            Arnis Gubins CommunityMVP

                            Eric,

                             

                            Submit this request along with your use case(s) through the official channel: https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm

                             

                            Who knows, you might get lucky in the next version of FM.

                            • 11. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                              Eric Bleak Community Member

                              DONE!

                               

                              Thank you all very much for your help.

                               

                              Eric

                              • 12. Re: Suggestions for FrameMaker 13
                                rob wallis Community Member

                                What I would like is the ability to use book level attributes to set running H/F values in TOC, LOT, LOF, IX etc.

                                It's annoying to have to manually change the generated files when the rest can be set from attributes at the book level.