38 Replies Latest reply: Apr 4, 2014 6:52 AM by Steven L. Gotz RSS

    Premiere Pro independent reference book

    LJH Community Member

      Hi,

       

      There are number of very good authors out there when it comes to Photoshop; Jeff Schewe, Martin Evening, Matt Kloskowski to name but a few. However I can’t find any good instructional/reference books when it comes to Premiere Pro.

       

      The kind of book I’m looking for would describe Intermediate to Advanced techniques covering video ingestion to export but using Premiere Pro [CS6 or CC] as the Software medium, possibly including After Effects but not as the main subject.

       

      The PDF manual for PremPro CC [and associated links] is great but no substitute for a well thought out reference book by an independent author.

       

      The Adobe Classroom series are also quite good if you want to follow a step be step guide. Not much use if you want a detailed description of some s/w aspect, or think out of the box.

       

      Can anyone offer any suggestions please?

       

      Thanks,

       

      Lyndon

        • 1. Re: Premiere Pro independent reference book
          Community Member

          I haven't seen anything around.. unfortunately... but I do use video tutorials as I need to learn stuff... kinda bookmark some places for those like this place...

           

          http://library.creativecow.net/series/Premiere-Pro-Basics-CS6--above-with-Andrew-Devis

           

           

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            Dave Merchant CommunityMVP

            It's hard to find books because it's hard to write them. With CS you could publish something that remained up-to-date for a year at least, now with CC your first chapter can be totally wrong inside of a week. Publishers won't touch a topic that could need a reprint before the first run hits the shelf, the only thing that's considered safe enough to risk printing is a very generic "...for dummies" style of intro book. This problem was discussed in depth behind the scenes, and the general conclusion was that for CC, print is dead. Online resources that can be refreshed in a couple of days is the only option. Google for stuff, watch commercial training packages (CreativeLive, Kelby, Lynda, etc.), follow industry pros on Twitter, and ask questions on forums.

             

            Video software is especially difficult to teach in 'print', which is why video tutorials have always been more popular with customers. There are specialist titles from the cinematography side covering things like color grading theory, but the closest thing to a reference book I've seen in recent years was 'An Editor's Guide to Premiere Pro' by Rich Harrington. He got around the print limitation by including a DVD of video tutorials, but again it's now out of date thanks to the rolling CC update program.

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              LJH Community Member

              Robodog/Dave,

               

              You are right as it stands to reason that any form of printed document would be pointless with the introduction of Cloud based products. It's also reasonable to assume that hard copies of CD's, DVD's and Blu-ray will go the same way, as broadband speed/bandwidth increases. I thought there might be some documentation on PP CS6 but even that's non-existent it seems. If push comes to shove, I'd rather have the updated software and search out the training on-line.

               

              I guess we are blessed that the likes of Andrew Devis are prepared to put the time in wrt training vids. His output is very polished and professional.

               

              Thanks again,

               

              Lyndon

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                Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                Peachpit Press* does a pretty good job, but it is beginning to intermediate. I helped revise the one for Premiere Pro 1.5 so I admit that I am prejudiced towards their methods. I liked the Anthony Bolante books, but I am not all that familiar with Jan Ozer's writing.

                 

                Studio Techniques is more advanced and is completely new for CC, using multiple writers for different outlooks in each chapter.

                 

                I like picking up a book and reading through it, then trying it out for myself on a second pass through. Video tutorials are great, but sometimes you want to dig deeper and deeper and most video tutorials don't do that. Also, most tutorials teach you "how" to do something, not "why". The Studio Techniques books teach a lot of "why".

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                  LJH Community Member

                  Absolutely Steven, we are on the same page here. Might have a serious look at Studio Techniques, The dot-to-dot approach, as in the Classroom series, does have its benefits but as soon as you leave the straight and narrow you're lost. Much better to grasp the theory and then work on the practice.

                   

                  Cheers..

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                    JSS1138 Community Member

                    any form of printed document would be pointless with the introduction of Cloud based products.

                     

                    I just want to make it clear for other readers that Premiere Pro is not 'cloud based' as most people think of that term.  PP installs and runs from your local hard drive, and an Internet connection is not required to run the software on a daily basis.  Creative Cloud is simply a marketing term for the subscription licensing, and does not describe how the software actually works.

                    • 7. Re: Premiere Pro independent reference book
                      JSS1138 Community Member

                      The kind of book I’m looking for would describe Intermediate to Advanced techniques covering video ingestion to export

                       

                      I don't think there are any 'advanced techniques' on those subjects, they're pretty straightforward operations.

                       

                      There is a lot to know about formats, and these days about MPEG encoding specifically, but those subjects are fairly general, and aren't specific to any one prorgam.

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                        LJH Community Member

                        A play on words I guess Jim but you are probably right to clarify. The programme itself [or its location] is not in question here. It's more the support documentation from external sources.  It seems very thin on the ground in comparison to say Illustrator, InDesign or indeed Photoshop.

                         

                        I can perhaps understand the situation with Photoshop, as it has a vast amateur, prosumer following. Not so PremPro. Perhaps I've answered my own question here in that there simply wouldn't be a suitable market for PremPro, most people having attained there experience via academic means.

                         

                        Manuals are fine but invariably written/collated by those who are involved in the coding and as such tend to be factual and focused, not really aimed at real life requirements. Take a well-known database company for example. Their manuals are some of the best in the business, indeed there’s a vast library of them. However if you want to know how to combine the various commands or make useable DB’s you need someone with experience and/or attend their courses. Again user friendly documentation hard to come by.

                         

                        Having said all this, The Studio Techniques suggested by Steven seems a pretty sound volume. I might just invest in a copy.

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                          Community Member

                          A lot of what a person wants to know about things ( from ingestion to export ) has to do with the product that needs to be made.. like, is it going to the web ? To another program to grading ? To a DVD ? To a BD ? The overall quality of the material ( and preview files ( renders )) being edited on timeline ( with effects and transistions ) also matter at times... so it IS complicated and always changing with new versions of software and new camera recording standards..

                           

                          The books were great to have ( manuals that came with programs in the old days , instead of help files ) .. but that is a dead duck except for really high end programs these days...which are really expensive !  Now the best thing is the web for tutorials and that is unfortunately full of many tutorials made by a wide range of persons..

                           

                          Some are really good and some are pretty terrible... but with patience and perseverance you will find what you need ... cause there are nice people who do stuff to share with others ... and are really good at what they are doing and teaching.

                           

                          Straighforward operations often means using some automated setup ( for export or whatever ) so that users don't have to know the specifics and can get the best overall quality and product they are looking for.  As we get deeper into things and want to improve or change that outcome then we have to learn what is really going on and how to work with it ( bit rates, variable vs constant , color spaces, tweening, all sorts of stuf ).

                           

                          I have a feeling that if I could actually FIND the books I would want to have.. I would have a giant room full of really big BOOKS !

                           

                           

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                            JSS1138 Community Member

                            Straighforward operations often means using some automated setup

                             

                            In this case, it doesn't.  It means the steps involved are largely the same from version to version.  They don't change much.

                             

                            1. Open the export dialog.

                            2. Choose a preset or manually set up the desired settings.

                            3. Hit Export or Queue.

                             

                            It's pretty straight forward.

                             

                            Now, the settings needed in step 2 can be a complex subject, but that understanding is the subject of codecs and the various options they present, what effect those options may have, etc.  That information is not specific to PP.  It applies to any software or hardware using that codec.

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                              Community Member

                              I thought we were starting with the ingest phase.. which is also choosing a preset maybe.. and depending on the export intentions that can be complicated a little bit ( especially with mixed frame rates and dimensions ) but of course you are right , JIm, it is very straighforward with most projects and is by far much simpler to use the automated functions of the program. The results are typically really good. Thanks !

                               

                               

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                                Community Member

                                For me, the most challenging things at this point are little things.. like what should I use for rendering stuff in prefrences for specific project.. and media .. or should I use max render quality ( a checkbox ) and should I turn blening on or off.. little things like that.. and to me at least these things are somewhat complicated sometimes.. but I always check out these forums for answers to the questions I have and thanks for helping so much , cause it is very helpful to have someone who follows the quirks and idiosyncracies and " known problems" and so on...

                                 

                                 

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                                  JSS1138 Community Member

                                  I thought we were starting with the ingest phase.. which is also choosing a preset maybe

                                   

                                  Not really.  Importing is also pretty basic.  Use the Media Browser for any tapeless media, and right click Import for anything else.  Pretty simple and straight forward.

                                   

                                  Now, when setting up the sequence, there can be a lot to know about codecs, frame rates, resolutions, PAR, interlacing, etc.  But again, that's pretty generic information that any editor would need to know, not just someone using PP.

                                   

                                  This is why I say there isn't really anything 'advanced' on importing or exporting that should be in a treatise for PP.  There is a lot to know, but that information is not specific to PP, and can be found elsewhere and easily applied when working in PP.

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                                    Community Member

                                    I'm getting off topic here.. and apologize.. to nice poster.. .but since I got into thinking about manuals and info on 'how to do stuff '... I naturally get into my own personal challenges.. I have found that putting stuff into pig from camera really requires I got to SG right after throwing out the junk. It is time consuming but SG does a great job on the stuff ( mov with avid codec source, dpx for SG ).  This "ingestion" period is what it is for me.. going with 4.2.0 to a 4.2.2 ninja 2 SSD to CS6.. and I see the difference and feel it ( scrubbing etc ) right away  ( sd card vs ninja stuff ).  And now I'm only making the original stuff close to ballpark after throwing out junk... and am no where NEAR export let alone edit phase... I think some of this stuff CAN get complicated and it is taking a very sustained and dedicated group effort to come out with the best product, IMO.  It is one reason this forum is so cool IMO.. so thanks again !

                                     

                                     

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                                      Community Member

                                      hmmm, I never really thought about that.. I've always thought that most new adobe users would be new at editing and the tech specs etc.  I suppose that is changing of course.. since it went to mac platform as well as PC.. so more experienced people are now coming to the program(s) ( suites etc ).  Good point.

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                                        JSS1138 Community Member

                                        I've always thought that most new adobe users would be new at editing and the tech specs etc.

                                         

                                        You may be right.  I guess my point is, they shouldn't be.

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                                          Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                                          You may be right.  I guess my point is, they shouldn't be.

                                          I can't agree with that. Not exactly.

                                           

                                          Once uon a time, I picked up a video camera, shot some footage, didn't like the first three programs I tried and finally settled on Premiere 6.0 back in 2001.

                                           

                                          I had no formal training at all, yet I still wanted to edit my vacation videos. There weren't many tutorials available back then, just some books.

                                           

                                          I spent a lot of money on Premiere 6.0 - but now people can get in for only $50 per month, so there are likely to be many more people with no experience of any kind, and maybe only cell phone video, coming around asking questions.

                                           

                                          If they are smart, they will read the FAQ pages for this forum and get hours and hours of training for free, or from Lynda.com or wherever. If they are not smart, they will ask repetitive questions and we need to be polite and steer them to the FAQ page.

                                           

                                          If they are stupid, they will ask questions without enough information for us to even guess at their problem.

                                           

                                          How we respond to those questions is entirely up to us, but as discussed in another recent thread, perhaps we should ignore the ones that iritate us and let someone else answer them, until we are feeling more generous and are willing to step up, again and again and again.

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                                            JSS1138 Community Member
                                            I can't agree with that.

                                             

                                            Quite a few folks don't.  Not coincidentally, they're are the ones providing fodder for shooter's Lounge thread.

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                                              Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                                              Just keep in mind that not everyone without formal training is unable to ask intelligent questions. I admit it may seem that way sometimes, but some of us are able to search out knowledge without going to film school, or taking photography classes in college.

                                               

                                              This stuff really isn't all that hard. People can get to a point where they can produce nice videos without any official training at all. Getting to the point where they are able to shoot independent films for theatrical release? Oh, well, that is a horse of a different color. But that is not what most of us are even trying to do.

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                                                Community Member

                                                I hope Lyndon doesn't mind me going off on tangent ...but another thing to consider about formal " school " programs for film and photo is to remember that they are fairly NEW compared to the history of the media ( length of time media has been around compared to the advent of schools to teach it ). Some people I've worked with on commercial films also have 'taught' in schools ( usually a summer program for some special class thing ). They often lament that there really is a limit to what a school can do for the students. They can't afford the expensive equipment really used on commercial sets ( especially which might be accidentally abused or damaged by students unfamiliar with the stuff ), and the space alone ( sound stage, studio space etc ) is costly to a school. Also, teaching theory and history and the basic technology ( color temps and film stocks or WB and lighting, camera angles, moves, editing techniques, etc etc ) may be ultimately unfair to the students who don't have the personal funds ( family money ) to leave school and produce on their own. It's very hard for student to learn after getting a masters in film that they can't produce a short documentary after all.  When you consider the number of students going through the classes each year, in all the film schools in the country, it is sometimes lamented by the people I've heard speak about this .. that it may in fact be unfair to a large number of students to get their hopes up like that...

                                                 

                                                The alternative, as Steve suggests, is to learn on your own, work as a PA on commercial projects, work for a specific photographer as an assistant, and so on.. learn by helping people who are doing it in real world...instead of a school setting ( many students actually DO end up going that route after graduating ). The number of those able to produce small projects after graduation ( speilberg, etc ) compared to the volume of students overall .. is very very small.

                                                 

                                                And schools are relatively 'new' inventions for some of those 'arts' and media etc.. like communication programs and tv production etc.  It aint easy , no matter how a person decides to approach the challenge and find a job that they like and so on...  so the more people help with free tutorials and free answers to questions the better it is for everyone.

                                                 

                                                 

                                                • 21. Re: Premiere Pro independent reference book
                                                  LJH Community Member

                                                  The one thing I like about these focused forums is that the people who contribute [this discussion trail as an example] are intelligent and well versed in their subject. That’s why they are so useful and indeed, indispensable: The Hardware Forum is of particular note, a brilliant concept.

                                                   

                                                  However robodog is correct in my opinion, in that we need to be conscious of the fact that not everyone is an expert but usually [especially on the Adobe forums] eager to learn.

                                                   

                                                  Another thing to consider is that a question can seem stupid or ill-founded at first glance but when you consider further, the question can be quite profound and possibly cause us to take a different approach in our own methods and practices. The way the discussion has developed here seems to support that view.

                                                   

                                                  Thanks for [all] your input so far it’s been very useful to me. However perhaps now is the time to draw a conclusion and close the debate, as I think it is in danger of shooting off at a tangent.

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                                                    JSS1138 Community Member

                                                    some of us are able to search out knowledge without going to film school, or taking photography classes in college.

                                                     

                                                    I'm not especially concerned with where folks get the information.  I'm only saying I think they should get educated before trying to use software of this complexity.  Those that don't only increase the chance of having problems with very basic stuff (and ending up in shooter's thread).

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                                                      shooternz Community Member

                                                      in that we need to be conscious of the fact that not everyone is an expert but usually [especially on the Adobe forums] eager to learn.

                                                       

                                                      98% of the posts in these forums are from people that are eager to learn and  they draft their question intelligently and with a degree of detail.  This overcomes any lack of initial knowledge or jargon.

                                                       

                                                      On the other hand...some roll in here with a base question or issue thats incomprehensible to others (defies expert parsing) because of lazy drafting.

                                                       

                                                      Definitely two parts to learning Premiere.

                                                       

                                                      1. Learn how to EDIT

                                                      2. Learn the Application

                                                       

                                                      Both require many various resources and efforts ...but main one is 'Hands on expereince with trial and error" 

                                                       


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                                                        Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                                                        Both require many various resources and efforts ...but main one is 'Hands on experience with trial and error"

                                                        That is kind of my point.

                                                         

                                                        This is not a particularly complex program for beginners, if you think about it a certain way.

                                                         

                                                        If you open up the program, click where it says you need to in order to import footage, create your sequence from one or more of the clips, use the razor to slice and dice, then export to one of the YouTube presets, it is a pretty darned easy process. There really isn't much to learn at all.

                                                         

                                                        The Eagle tutorial can pretty much get a beginner all the way there. Which is why I answer a lot of questions by linking to it.

                                                         

                                                        Learning to "edit" is not really necessary for a lot of people. Just put some footage of their vacations on a timeline and export to YouTube. Simple. No need to read Walter Murch's book.

                                                         

                                                        Should they probably use Premiere Elements? Yes. But maybe they got Premiere Pro for "free" along with their Photoshop and Acrobat so they might as well try it out. Right? One reason that Premiere Elements might be a good addition to the Creative Cloud.

                                                         

                                                        In any case, Premiere Pro is a simple enough program to use for basic things. Then it is possible to start digging deeper and it is like peeling an onion. Or, deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole. There is more and more and more to learn every day. My guess is that you learn something new fairly often. I know I still do.

                                                         

                                                        At some point, it is possible to use Premiere Pro to produce a theatrical release. It has been done. But only by people with lots of experience and probably some formal education as well.

                                                         

                                                        But it isn't necessarily difficult to begin with. Nor complicated. Not really.

                                                         

                                                        But it is necessary to ask questions in a way that can be understood by people like us who really like helping people. I would venture to guess that you guys get the same kick out of helping people that I do. It is not only a good way to pay back what we got from others when we started, but it is good for our Karma.

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                                                          JSS1138 Community Member

                                                          Definitely two parts to learning Premiere.

                                                           

                                                          1. Learn how to EDIT

                                                          2. Learn the Application

                                                           

                                                          My point exactly, and in that sequence.

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                                                            JSS1138 Community Member

                                                            If you open up the program, click where it says you need to in order to import footage, create your sequence from one or more of the clips, use the razor to slice and dice, then export to one of the YouTube presets, it is a pretty darned easy process. There really isn't much to learn at all.

                                                             

                                                            And yet, those who don't follow shooter's prescribed order of effort manage to muck it up with pretty regular consistency, which somewhat belies your claim of simplicity.  Perhaps you're vantage point of one who already knows is influencing your estimation of what others should be able to easily deduce?

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                                                              Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                                                              Perhaps you're vantage point of one who already knows is influencing your estimation of what others should be able to easily deduce?

                                                              Perhaps. But I really believe that the Eagle tutorial is sufficient to get the vast majority of people started towards their goals. It is a very good tutorial. Although, you could be right. It could be that my experience is coloring my viewpoint.

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                                                                JSS1138 Community Member

                                                                I really believe that the Eagle tutorial is sufficient to get the vast majority of people started towards their goals.

                                                                 

                                                                I'd agree.  But even that is often skipped by most of the people we're talking about.

                                                                 

                                                                Even if that were the starting point of every new PP user, it's still only part of step 2 on shooter's list.  Step 1 really should be done first when using software at this level.

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                                                                  cvid01 Community Member

                                                                  Although this post has been answered, a good reference is at: http://premierepro.net/

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                                                                    Community Member

                                                                    Lyndon, is that a girl's name ??  If it is, and since this thread has gone on tangent as you feared... I figure it won't hurt to ask you...

                                                                     

                                                                    will you marry me ??

                                                                     

                                                                     

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                                                                      LJH Community Member

                                                                      Ha ha. Was Lyndon B. Johnson, the 36th U.S. President a girl ? I don't think so.

                                                                       

                                                                      Thanks for your input by the way, it's been fun watching how this discussion has progressed.

                                                                       

                                                                      I'm no expert on the vagaries of Premiere Pro and editing as you might have guessed but the discussions and sentiments above apply to most technical/professional fields. I'm retired now [early I might add] but in my previous career as a Data Centre Administrator, I was continually amazed at how little well educated [straight from University] folks actually knew. Indeed I remember talking to one particularly bright chap [PhD] and he admitted that once he started to work in a real environment, he basically had to sit down and re-write the book. His theoretical knowledge was first class but a lot of it simply didn’t map into real world scenarios.

                                                                       

                                                                      It would seem the same applies to the use of complex software, as in the Adobe CC suite.

                                                                       

                                                                      Take Care.

                                                                      • 32. Re: Premiere Pro independent reference book
                                                                        Community Member

                                                                         

                                                                         

                                                                        well, forget about the marriage proposal.... ( I am now pretending that I never asked that stupid question and sniffing around for food in the kitchen )

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                                                                          Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                                                                          Even if that were the starting point of every new PP user, it's still only part of step 2 on shooter's list.  Step 1 really should be done first when using software at this level.

                                                                          We will have to just let that be a disagreement that can't be settled between us.

                                                                           

                                                                          I didn't know anything about editing but I pretty much knew what my very first video should look like when I was done with it. It was instinctive, and based on other travel videos I had seen. I just knew that the other software didn't let me edit the way I wanted to edit, and Premiere did. Not that I knew the "right" way, just that I knew what I wanted to do.

                                                                           

                                                                          Looking back on it now, I am not particularly displeased with the results. If I were to do it today I would have less dissolves and more straight cuts, but all in all it wasn't bad. And, more important, the family liked it. One of my older brothers tried to insult me a bit, as older brothers are sometimes prone to do, and said it was like watching PBS. What he didn't realize is that I would be thrilled by the comparison.

                                                                           

                                                                          I have to assume that there are lots of other people in the same place that I was when I started. But nowadays it is easier to learn. Does it matter that I didn't know anything at all about editing? Not really. It came out OK.

                                                                           

                                                                          As I write this I am trying to figure out exactly what might be meant by "Learn how to EDIT". Is that understanding how Walter Murch would do it? Or is there some other way to learn to edit? Tutorials? Books? If so, which ones?

                                                                           

                                                                          What exactly do you guys mean by that and do you both mean the same thing? Is studying films or documentaries that you enjoy sufficient? I know it is certainly advisable. Do you really think that going to college is required to produce vacation videos good enough to post to YouTube for the enjoyment of your family?

                                                                          But even that is often skipped by most of the people we're talking about.

                                                                          I think that is actually the heart of the issue. Which is why I link to it so often, and I wish I could get everyone to agree to start almost all answers that are too general with a link to the tutorial.

                                                                           

                                                                          John Smith does a pretty good job of posting some links. I wonder what would happen if it started with a link to the Eagle tutorial?

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                                                                            shooternz Community Member

                                                                            For me.

                                                                             

                                                                            Learning to edit is both technical and creative (ie  "process" and "story telling")

                                                                             

                                                                            Learning the application (tool)  is all technical and practice.

                                                                             

                                                                            I do them all simultaneously... and I still learn as I go and as I need.

                                                                             

                                                                            No order too it.

                                                                             

                                                                            You cant learn to hammer in a nail... if you dont have a hammer to learn with.

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                                                                              R Neil Haugen Community Member

                                                                              I like shooternz's last comment ... as for me, a total noob but one actually using this whole video thing (camera through post to delivery) from the beginning focused on utliziing the results now ... the whole learning thing is completly mixed. No, I don't have time either from my working life & family nor (as considering my current age) several years to go to a film school or something.

                                                                               

                                                                              I know enough to keep my projects simple and 'doable' now, and ramp them up as I learn. Quite often I don't even know the terms to ask a good question, and I have so appreciated the patient help avialable here. An example is shooternz's concise presentation of creating/using digital intermediates as a workflow when I asked. I didn't even know what "DI" stood for, and amazingly ... a Google search wasn't particularly helpful! 

                                                                               

                                                                              But after reading all the way through this thread, I still think that what I could most use right now is a good "book" that did at least a decently complete job of explaining at least most of the commands and their options in terms of what effect they have on the footage at hand. Cross-referenced.

                                                                               

                                                                              It would be a ton faster than searching through the helpfiles, going to Adobe TV & "lynda" and other places, spending a couple hours watching videos yet finding nothing that actually answered my initial query. Which I've done numerous times.

                                                                               

                                                                              It would need to be downloadable and updated regularly. A big project, yep. But immensely usable in saving my time and getting work done. Just ... done.

                                                                               

                                                                              Sigh. I keep dreaming ... and posting here.

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                                                                                shooternz Community Member

                                                                                I loved written manuals..and we used to have long threads about them here as well.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Always turned out that we all loved getting those beautifully printed crisp clean manuals because we loved the "smell of them".

                                                                                 

                                                                                I am now happy to have a pdf at hand and use the Vid Tutorials as required.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Doubt anyone would take on publishing books these days. Especially CC products.

                                                                                 

                                                                                The jargon, tools  and functions... change each and every update.  There will be new stuff in the upcoming update I am certain.

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                                                                                  LJH Community Member

                                                                                  "I loved written manuals..and we used to have long threads about them here as well."

                                                                                   

                                                                                  This brought back memories Shooternz. I recall receiving a free set comprising  9 [large] volumes of technical manuals from the well know database company. They were beautifully bound and packed full of very useful information. Indeed they would have put Encyclopaedia Britannica to shame. Alas no more as they are all now on-line.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  There is still something about the tactile feel of a good printed volume in your hands. This is why I asked the original question I guess. PDF’s are useful but sterile, however it’s pointless fighting against the tide.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  A few people have mentioned the ‘Eagle Tutorial’ At the risk of sounding a complete dimwit, what is that and where. Any ideas please?

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Cheers.