You have a wide gamut monitor, remember?
What you're seeing as "saturated" blues are in fact oversaturated by the monitor (or more accurately by the lack of display color management).
You absolutely and unconditionally need to use a web browser with full color management even for untagged images - which narrows it down to just one, Firefox with color management set to mode 1. Safari just won't do.
You're even viewing in Photoshop with color management turned off. No wonder you get saturated blues.
Deep blues and cyans are the first to go in sRGB.
Ok, I'm trying to understand.
If I look at the pictures on 500px.com with the nicely saturated blues in Firefox set to mode 1, they look very good. But how can they? Shouldn't they be sRGB and therefore have desaturated blues and cyans? Or does my wide gamut monitor also oversaturate sRGB images that are in Firefox set to mode 1?
And like I said, when I make a screen dump of said images and open them in PS, they still look very good. Even when I convert them to my working space. I'm lost how that can happen.
Thank you for your help.
all goes well until I turn on the gamut warning; the entire image turns grey - almost everything is out of gamut.
View> Gamut Warning uses the profile selected in View> Proof Setup (Soft Proof) i recall - you probably have CMYK selected there by default
if you are working in sRGB you probably don't need to Soft Proof or use Gamut Warning for the Internet or unmanaged environments (just post/deliver sRGB and forget it - it's the best we can do...)
for printing - you may want to work in more realistic saturation/tone levels and checking View> Proof Setup: Device Profile for problem areas to train your eyes...
The usual reason for inconsistencies is that the color management chain breaks somewhere. And without full color management that monitor will never display correctly.
So, there are three conditions that need to be there, and that you need to check.
- One, does the image have an embedded profile (and is it the correct one)?
- Two, is the display profile an accurate description of the monitor? How is the Asus calibrated and profiled?
- Three, are you using software that will read the embedded profile and convert it to the display profile? IOW is it color managed at all?
If all these three conditions are met, the display is correct. If one is missing a wide gamut monitor will tell you very quickly.
A special note about untagged images on the web, of which there's a lot: All browsers will abandon all attempts at color management if there is no embedded profile. The one single exception is FF in mode 1, which will assign sRGB. This allows the normal CM chain to operate.
Actually, I specifically set sRGB for Soft Proofing.
I work in ProPhoto RGB, so if I have to post something on the internet, I use Soft Proofing to see what the color conversion will do. The results are usually nothing to worry about and easily fixed, if necessary. In this case with the ice cave image though, the out of gamut area is so large and so wildly out of gamut that I am unable to fix it - I have to change the hue or color balance dramatically, which obviously completely changes the color of the ice. Desaturating gives similar problems.
Printing has never given me any problems - prints look exactly the same as on my monitor.
I will look into the monitor again tomorrow and run some tests.
Thanks for your help so far, much appreciated.
Actually, I specifically set sRGB for Soft Proofing
so you convert to sRGB then View> Gamut Warning with View> Proof Setup set to sRGB
because you wrote:
I always convert them to sRGB... This all goes well until I turn on the gamut warning; the entire image turns grey - almost everything is out of gamut.
i am not sure what would be the point of that (Gamut Warning or Soft Proofing sRGB source to sRGB destination), but it would appear you have major Out of Gamut RGB color issues that would definitely not translate well to any print spaces i am familiar with
or perhaps i am still unclear on what you are doing