Try doing a Select All and deselecting everything else on both the document page and the master page assigned.
I wonder if its a memory issue. Have you quit and restarted the application?
I have restarted the program and my PC as well for multiple times. Problem stays...
Tried selecting all, it's like program doesn't notice the object. But the object exports to pdf normally.
Is there anyway you can attach the file here?
Also, have you tried to select all and copy the elements onto a new document?
I asked you to select all, then deselect the other objects to see if that one would remain selected. Did you do that?
I tried that too... "Tried selecting all, it's like program doesn't notice the object" When I select all it selects everything else but this one.
Could it be, that you created this document from an inx file which was exported in InDesign CS or CS2? Could it be that there was a layer named "page"?
For this error I have no solution but to delete that page, but I think that in an earlier version where this file is originated from, a layer has got some generic names, like page, bleed, margin or so. In early versions the generic page elements had clear names like those. (I don't remember all.) If a layer was named in the same name sometimes it happened to be in conflict and I don't know what happens when such a file is updated to a later version.
Now is InDesign naming these invisble layers with cryptic names to avoid naming conflicts.
This document was made by me with CS6 and in the original file there're plenty of pages like this (around 30) so I'm not too keen on deleting everything. I just might have to build a new file (around 300 pages). I don't know what happened between now and february this year with this file and its backups for I just can't alter those objects...
I've looked at the file, and I think it's damaged. There's another, non-printing, object that also cannot be selected.
If this is a template and those are the only objects on the page, abandon it and rebuild from scratch. If there are other objects, try copy/paste in place in a new file and then place that image again if you need it.
When this document was created, why does the history show this: "Opened from InDesign Interchange YES". InDesign Interchange export was only possible up to CS3, from CS4 upward INX was to import, but to export was only IDML possible.
Here is the content of the log file of that file:
Recovered File - no
Recovered MiniSave - no
Converted - yes
Open As Copy - yes
Open Missing Plug-ins - no
Save As - yes
Created - yes
Transferred - no
Converted from QuarkXPress - no
Converted from PageMaker - no
Book - sync - no
Book - repaginate - no
Opened from InDesign Interchange - yes
Most recent Save - yes
Book - update cross reference - no
Open a Clone - no
Used Content Dropper - no
Used Layout Adjustment - no
Exported SWF - no
Created on Windows 6.02 in app version 188.8.131.523 (FS InDesign Roman) build 413 on Dienstag, 27. Mai 2014 at 19:42
Opened from InDesign Interchange on Windows 6.02 in app version 184.108.40.2063 (FS InDesign Roman) build 413 on Dienstag, 27. Mai 2014 at 19:52
Save As on Windows 6.02 in app version 220.127.116.113 (FS InDesign Roman) build 413 on Dienstag, 27. Mai 2014 at 20:07
Save As on Windows 6.02 in app version 18.104.22.1683 (FS InDesign Roman) build 413 on Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 at 08:08
Open As Copy on Windows 6.02 in app version 22.214.171.1243 (FS InDesign Roman) build 413 on Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 at 08:10
Save As on Windows 6.02 in app version 126.96.36.1993 (FS InDesign Roman) build 413 on Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 at 08:10
Most recent Save on Windows 6.02 in app version 188.8.131.523 (FS InDesign Roman) build 413 on Mittwoch, 28. Mai 2014 at 08:10
Open As Copy on Macintosh 10.93 in …
Opening from .idml shows as opened from Interchange...
I suspect this sample was created from a .idml file that was made to see if it would clean up.
Yes the original file was used to make this idml file to see if those two objects could somehow unlock (clean up).
There're about 300 pages of multilayered content (20-30 objects on average per page) on this document so I'm not too keen to abandon it and rebuild... I will dig deeper and try at least something to save this...
A huge thank you for digging with me!
Does this happen only once in a document, then you can replace this spread by another one, or does it happen again on other places?
Just checked the document once more - this thing happens on 150 pages out of 296
Does it move along with the other objects on these pages and gets larger when zooming in? If so, make a screenshot of a bigger version. It sounds like it's some kind of non-printing marker or indicator.
Okay, I could repair this file, BUT what I describe now is to be handled with caution. Make a copy of your file, before you do anything like this, it might end in a destroyed file, but may end in a repaired file.
- Export as IDML. An IDML file is a ZIPPED file with IDML as extension.
- Open the file in a program which needs not to expand the zip file because reasambling is often destroying a file. I did it in BBedit on the Mac, but also some EPUB-editors are capable to do this
- When the file is opened in BBedit it looks like
- Inside the code of the spread is something like "ItemLayer="ue6" "
- I changed the name. saved.
- This item became visible when the IDML was opened again in InDesign CS6.
Same thing with the frame at the bottom of the page.
For you it is important to test, if it is easy to find this string in a longer document and that you identify the correct one. You could try and test what will happen if you get another one, here I tested it too and I have got no damage. After that I would recommend to save as IDML again and open and save this file.
It doesn't move anywhere, it's stuck where I once placed it. It shows on the Links folder from when I packaged the file... Most certainly it's no marker or indicator and the "+" is not the only object that's stuck, in to bottom of the page there is another stuck object. If you're interested to check it yourself you can download the file here: WeTransfer
Additional, better solution, based on the same IDML: When you delete "ItemLayer="xyz" this item will be moved to the bottom most layer.
Here is the corruption in the file and can be repaired:
You can read out the layer names in the file designmap.xml
There are 2 problems, layer name =""" (empty) and the definition should be filled with a name.
Visible="true" Locked="true" IgnoreWrap="false" ShowGuides="true" LockGuides="true" UI="false" Expendable="false" Printable="true">
should be changed to
Visible="true" Locked="false" IgnoreWrap="false" ShowGuides="true" LockGuides="false" UI="true" Expendable="true" Printable="true">
When you change this, it will correct all layers.
This I want to try! Sounds truly amazing if I could recover the file!
Is there some equivalent of the BBedit on Win8. I tried some Epub editors and Notepad++ for this but didn't manage to find that xml file inside that...
It can also be done with several XML editors, like <Oxygen XML Editor>. I have tested this on my Mac and it would work fine. This program has also a WIndows and Linux version. Maybe that a trial version would do it for you.
Wohoo fixed! Thank you oh so very much!