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1. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Noel Carboni Jun 22, 2014 1:59 PM (in response to CBR 1000)You could search your computer for "Camera Raw.8bi".
Normally it lives in these two places on a 64 bit Windows system:
If you're running 64 bit Adobe software:
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CC\File Formats\Camera Raw.8bi
If you're running 32 bit Adobe software:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CC\File Formats\Camera Raw.8bi
-Noel
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2. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 1:04 AM (in response to Noel Carboni)Thanks, Noel. I did check and the file was something from 2013, so I think it is outdated.
How can I update Camera Raw to 8.5?
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3. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Noel Carboni Jun 23, 2014 3:13 AM (in response to CBR 1000)Seems like the Creative Cloud application should list it as in need of update.
You could try Help - Updates... inside Photoshop and see if the Adobe Application Manager can see that it needs updating.
There used to be a separate download, but they stopped publishing those links some time ago. Maybe someone will have derived it and will be willing to share it.
-Noel
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4. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Ashutosh.Nigam Jun 23, 2014 4:39 AM (in response to CBR 1000)Please try running patcher manually from:
http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2011/03/keeping-photoshop-up-to-date.html#notconnected
Regards,
Ashutosh
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5. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 5:43 AM (in response to Ashutosh.Nigam)Thanks, Ashutosh. I tried with patcher. It says installation has been successful, but the Camera Raw is still version 8.0.
The Camera Raw.8bi file is stil untouched (2013).
Any idea?
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6. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Noel Carboni Jun 23, 2014 7:57 AM (in response to CBR 1000)Did the file date/time on the plug-in file(s) not change?
Remember to restart Photoshop and associated applications. Maybe reboot?
-Noel
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7. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 8:18 AM (in response to Noel Carboni)Thanks, Noel. I did reboot and repeat two times the manual update. The file is still the old one (2013). I think the actual patching routine has something to be improved.
Any help will be appreciated.
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8. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Noel Carboni Jun 23, 2014 9:33 AM (in response to CBR 1000)I don't know how geeky you want to get, but if you're comfortable navigating around folders and zip files, here's a manual technique that will work...
Close Photoshop first, then:
- Download the 8.5 manual update link from here: Don't run the installer, but instead just Open the zip file in Windows Explorer.
http://swupdl.adobe.com/updates/oobe/aam20/win/PhotoshopCameraRaw8-8.0/8.5.50/setup.zip
- Navigate inside the zip file to find the resources inside that correspond to the 64 or 32 bit Photoshop version that you're running. I assume you have installed the 64 bit version, so the rest of the instructions will concentrate on the 64 bit Camera Raw.8bi only. Here's the path:
setup.zip \ payloads \ AdobeCameraRaw8.0All-x64-050614143245 \ Assets1_1.zip
The file within Assets1_1.zip, named 1002, is actually the Camera Raw.8bi file for 64 bits, just with a different name.
- Copy 1002 to your folder on your computer where your Camera Raw.8bi normally lives, e.g.,
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CC\File Formats
- Rename the old Camera Raw.8bi file to Camera Raw.8bi_8.0. It's important that the extension is changed to something other than .8bi.
- Rename 1002 to Camera Raw.8bi
- Run Photoshop and verify the Camera Raw version by choosing Help - About Plug-in... - Camera Raw.
-Noel
- Download the 8.5 manual update link from here: Don't run the installer, but instead just Open the zip file in Windows Explorer.
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9. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 9:12 AM (in response to CBR 1000)Looking at the files, I noted that the Camera Raw.8bi in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CC\File Formats\ is the old one (2013), but the Camera Raw.8bi in C:\Program Files(x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CC\File Formats\ has a newer date of June 2014.
Since that folder is referring to 32 bit application, it seems the updater is working only on the 32 bit folder of the Adobe applications. I have both Bridge and Photoshop installed as 64 bit application.
Can this help to support troubleshooting?
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10. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Noel Carboni Jun 23, 2014 9:20 AM (in response to CBR 1000)I've just verified that Adobe engineering is aware of the problem.
See if the manual asset copy process I listed above helps you out. Note that it seems to be taking kind of a long time to download the file, so be patient.
-Noel
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11. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
ssprengel Jun 23, 2014 9:25 AM (in response to CBR 1000)See Noel’s instructions about how to manually install the plug-in for CC 64-bit.
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12. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 9:50 AM (in response to Noel Carboni)Many thanks, Noel. If Adobe engineers are aware of the problem, we expect a fix addressing this strange problem.
I followed your instructions and now I have the right version of Camera Raw.8bi.
I checked also Lens Profile and Camera Profile under ProgramData Folder, but I found they are not updated (index.dat is something 2013).
So, now I have the correct plug-in version, but not the new profiles for 8.5, correct?
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13. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Noel Carboni Jun 23, 2014 9:53 AM (in response to CBR 1000)I'm not sure; I'll have to do more research on the rest of the files. It's possible the same kind of manual operation can be done, but I have not worked it out since the installer has worked properly for me every time (I'm on Win 8.1, which may be why).
-Noel
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14. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Noel Carboni Jun 23, 2014 10:03 AM (in response to CBR 1000)My Index.dat is dated March 20, 2014.
Looking in the following folder...
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera
I see many folders with 2013 dates, but some with 2014 dates - e.g., the following, which has a March 31, 2014 date:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Canon EOS 70D
That seems to be the newest I have. I do see a lot of assets inside the download zip that have June 5, 2014 dates, so my system may be missing things too. Or not - To be honest I'm not sure.
-Noel
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15. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 10:02 AM (in response to Noel Carboni)Ok, Noel. Many thanks for your kind cooperation.
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16. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Ashutosh.Nigam Jun 23, 2014 10:07 AM (in response to CBR 1000)Please install DNG converter from following link. This would update the Camera Profiles to 8.5 version. .
http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2011/03/keeping-photoshop-up-to-date.html#currentversion
Regards,
Ashutosh
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17. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 10:11 AM (in response to Noel Carboni)I just checked on another system: when the update is successful you shoud have index.dat with the same date of Camera Raw.8bi (June, 5 2014). I hope this could help.
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18. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 10:20 AM (in response to Ashutosh.Nigam)Thanks, Ashutosh, this definitely correct the problem. Now I have also Camera Profiles and Lens Profiles updated. Index.dat now shows June , 5 2014. The date of folders seems to be not significant to evaluate the success of the update (perhaps they remain with original date created, while other are new). Just check Index.dat and Camera Raw.8bi.
Many thanks to all.
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19. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
CBR 1000 Jun 23, 2014 10:29 AM (in response to CBR 1000)I assembled the two answers from Noel and Ashutosh that, executed in the following order, let me circumvent the bug of the updater.
Many thanks to Noel and Ashutosh
I don't know how geeky you want to get, but if you're comfortable navigating around folders and zip files, here's a manual technique that will work...
Close Photoshop first, then:
- Download the 8.5 manual update link from here: Don't run the installer, but instead just Open the zip file in Windows Explorer.
http://swupdl.adobe.com/updates/oobe/aam20/win/PhotoshopCameraRaw8-8.0/8.5.50/setup.zip
- Navigate inside the zip file to find the resources inside that correspond to the 64 or 32 bit Photoshop version that you're running. I assume you have installed the 64 bit version, so the rest of the instructions will concentrate on the 64 bit Camera Raw.8bi only. Here's the path:
setup.zip \ payloads \ AdobeCameraRaw8.0All-x64-050614143245 \ Assets1_1.zip
The file within Assets1_1.zip, named 1002, is actually the Camera Raw.8bi file for 64 bits, just with a different name.
- Copy 1002 to your folder on your computer where your Camera Raw.8bi normally lives, e.g.,
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CC\File Formats
- Rename the old Camera Raw.8bi file to Camera Raw.8bi_8.0. It's important that the extension is changed to something other than .8bi.
- Rename 1002 to Camera Raw.8bi
- Run Photoshop and verify the Camera Raw version by choosing Help - About Plug-in... - Camera Raw.
-Noel
Please install DNG converter from following link. This would update the Camera Profiles to 8.5 version. .
http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2011/03/keeping-photoshop-up-to-date.html#currentversion
- Download the 8.5 manual update link from here: Don't run the installer, but instead just Open the zip file in Windows Explorer.
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20. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Joel Gringorten Jun 25, 2014 4:56 PM (in response to Noel Carboni)I followed this procedure to patch the PS camera raw support. While PS was now running raw 8.5, it broke the hand-off from LR (5.5) to PS. If I tell LR to open a raw file in PS, PS opens, but the file doesn't load. Reverting back to the original PS raw support fixes the problem, but of course now I'm back to mismatched raw converters. Please advise.
-joel
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21. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
ssprengel Jun 25, 2014 7:06 PM (in response to Joel Gringorten)Are you running PS-CC-2014 or PS-CC (2013) with ACR 8.5?
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22. Re: After updating Camera Raw from 8.4.1 to 8.5, it revert back to 8.0
Joel Gringorten Jun 25, 2014 7:29 PM (in response to ssprengel)I'm running PS-CC-2014, and trying to upgrade from Camera Raw 8.0 to 8.5.



