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Are you referring to flipbooks?
Hey Bob, <waves>
I don't know what its called. you touch the corner of the page and it turns like a real magazine.
Yeah looks like thats what I want.
Seems like I can buy extra software to do this. It also seems like ID should do this.
Only if you export as SWF.
well that's no good.
Flipping pages is not part of the specification of either interactive PDF files, EPUB files or Kindle files.
As Bob said, it's included as part of Flash (SWF), or it can be added by third party software. That's just the way it is.
How about fixed layout ePub?
I'm going to respond to your question the way any of the InDesign team would. Answer the questions and they would have a better idea of what they could do. It's a great exercise because it may help you understand the type of problems they face. It may also help you understand why it's not already in the program.
When you say ebook, what do you mean?
- What devices do you want this effect to be seen on? Computers? Kindles? iPads? Androids? iPhones? Kobo? Does this effect currently exist in any of these devices? This point is vital to consider.
- What software do you want to "play" this ebook? PDF software? Kindle software? iBooks? Kobo? Calibre? NextIssue? HTML Browsers? Does this effect currently exist in any of this software? If not, can you point to any software that does provide this effect? This point is vital to consider.
- How do you want the ebook to look? Reflowable? Fixed Layout?
- Should there be other effects such as movies, sounds, hyperlinks, buttons, etc?
What are the uses for such a type of ebook?
- What is it that having this effect built into an export from InDesign would do for you?
- What workflow would it benefit? Would it be quicker, easier, better to control?
- Can you point to any examples of how this page turn effect is currently used? What organizations currently use such a thing?
Once you've answered these questions, we can have a dialog about the feature.
Hi Sandee, Peter and Steve, good to hear from you again. Its been a while.
I see the problem now that you ask those questions. For what I'm thinking about would be a fixed layout since I would want it to replicate a magazine. But I also want it to be able to be read on mobile devices. everything from your smartphone to your smart tablet (whatever they maybe). looks like I'll go with a fixed layout epub and a pdf.
I downloaded the tutorial and test files I'll do that this weekend. I've been doing mostly web stuff and I just started working on a new magazine that's printed and I was looking to transfer that to an electronic version. I like the idea of page flipping but was turned off by the $500 price tag of the software. I thought that this might be something that had been added to InDesign and who better to ask than you guys.
The whole flash thing is out because of the mobile devices, if that's how its being done, I was hoping there was an html5 method I'll have to look into this.
Well thanks guys and Sandee, I have to do more research I really didn't have a use for this until now.
Buko . wrote:
I like the idea of page flipping but was turned off by the $500 price tag of the software.
Buko, since you present as a level-headed professional, I would appeal to your longer-range vision and submit that not only does the page-flip effect fall short of justifying a $500 expenditure, it does absolutely nothing good for smartphone/tablet user experience. (A two-page, fixed-layout print spread is a horrible display format for either device type.) At best, it was a seemingly gratifying novelty that is already slowly and rightly slipping into obscurity. It looks kind of cool the first time you see it, but in practice it amounts to no more than a superfluous gadget that creates more problems than it solves; as though it solves any. Do yourself a favor and do not expend any more energy on it.
That was the point of my last paragraph.
Ah, I read you as meaning it's out for mobile devices because of Flash. But I meant that even if you could get it onto mobile devices via HTML5 or whatever, it would be a terribly cumbersome way to read on mobile screens.
exactly, I'll go through the new tutorial and figure out whats best for what I want to do with these tools. For now they can just download a pdf like the old days.