5 Replies Latest reply on Jun 28, 2014 2:00 PM by Keith_Reeder

    Any Worry About Adobe Having Our RAW Files?


      New CC member (took me forever to decide to finally give up on my old adobe account and start a new one, because they couldn't figure out how to sign me up with my existing account).


      Just as I'm about to start uploading my files to Adobe I'm wondering: am I going to someday regret uploading all my RAW files to Adobe? I know it would be ultimately destructive to their business model to do anything obviously nefarious to their customers' data, but what I'm worried about is that they've been hacked (though hackers are probably more interested in my credit card info than huge raw files) and also the creepiness many content companies are up to lately (Facebook, looking at you).


      Is it that far off in the future that adobe for example start mining our photos for information about us, what brands we use, where we go, what we shoot photos of - and possibly use this or sell this info to third parties?


      The cloud arrangement aside, I would be more than a little wary of carrying a 10TB drive of all my life's photography work into Adobe headquarters and handing it over to them for safe keeping.


      Does anyone else have this concern?

        • 1. Re: Any Worry About Adobe Having Our RAW Files?
          john beardsworth Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          You can never trust any online service as much as you can trust yourself. If you let Big Corp Inc have that 10Tb drive, make sure it's only a convenience for you, eg a secondary copy that you can access from wherever you may be, and that you're really relying on the 10Tb drive stored in your sister's nuclear shelter.

          • 2. Re: Any Worry About Adobe Having Our RAW Files?
            curiomo Level 1

            Just to clarify, I'm not worried about Adobe losing my data (that risk is always present, and as with most of you I have multiple mirrored backups at different physical locations), I'm worried about it somehow being abused as in terms of getting into the wrong hands, copyright infringement, etc.

            • 3. Re: Any Worry About Adobe Having Our RAW Files?
              Keith_Reeder Level 4

              Adobe doesn't have - and will never have - your Raw files. Creative Cloud is not a cloud storage solution.


              Yes, there's some storage with CC - 2gb/20gb depending on your CC product - but it's obviously not intended as a Raw back-up.  


              With CC, your images stay exactly where they are right now.

              • 4. Re: Any Worry About Adobe Having Our RAW Files?
                curiomo Level 1

                Hi Keith and thanks for the help.


                So what files does CC sync then if not the image files? Does it extract jpg previews or something? I do know about the 2GB limit, but I read that all files sync'd via LR (as in all our photos) don't count against this limit. I'm just wondering how else I'd be able to view all my photos on desktop, tablet and mobile without them uploading my image files.

                • 5. Re: Any Worry About Adobe Having Our RAW Files?
                  Keith_Reeder Level 4

                  Syncing is simply keeping a collection of files on your I-pad/Lightroom Mobile, in sync with the desktop versions - your machine to your machine, across the internet: I suppose this would be via Lr's servers, but the idea is simply to give you mobility, and the ability to use Lr away from your desktop for a given session or shoot - or to wirelessly move "Smart Preview" versions of a collection, to your mobile device.


                  I don't use an I-Pad/Pod/Phone or Lr Mobile, but that's the basic premise: it's not really intended to be a way to have mobile access to your entire accumulation of images - especially when we're getting into multiple tb's worth of images: besides, your I-Pad hasn't got the capacity for that.


                  That said, I suppose with a small "portfolio" it'd be doable.


                  Anyway, pretty good explanation here:


                  "In order to use LRM, you login with LRD and enable sync, then set specific Collections to sync. It automatically generates the necessary raw proxy images, though it doesn't indicate within LRD that there's a Smart Preview in the usual spot beneath the histogram. As long as you're connected to a network, the selected Collections and any operations you perform on the images within are automatically synced between the two. If you want to be able to work on images while disconnected from the network, you have to enable offline editing; otherwise, it dynamically downloads each image as you open it and caches it temporarily


                  The images are small enough that you don't have to wait inordinately long for them to load, but as a group they're big enough that they can take up a lot of space on a limited-capacity iPad. (Pity that amazing compression algorithm from HBO's "Silicon Valley" doesn't really exist.) You'll probably want to come up with a syncing strategy to manage your storage. The syncing itself happens pretty quickly and seamlessly, at least over Wi-Fi, though there is a noticeable pause before the interface becomes available as you wait for the proxy to download when working online. And you can work on already-downloaded images while it continues to sync.


                  You can only work with a single catalog at a time. (As a refresher, Lightroom images are mapped in databases called catalogs, in which which you can create collections, and Lightroom only supports a single open catalog.) However, the app will attempt to sync with whatever open catalog you're logged into and will offer to switch to that catalog. So, for instance, if you're working with the images from a machine at the office, then go home and log on with a different machine, you can switch to syncing with that catalog. To do so wipes the previously synced catalog from your device. It can also import photos from your camera roll and automatically sync them back to the desktop".


                  Lightroom Mobile is an in-house alternative to Photosmith, really - so what applies to Photosmith, in terms of purpose and usage seems broadly to apply to Lr Mobile (Photosmith being more feature rich).