8 Replies Latest reply: Jul 20, 2014 11:41 PM by David-OZ RSS

    Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.

    David-OZ Community Member

      Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? i.e. via type grouping of drag image objects

       

      I've hit a brick wall. I've been testing this drag drop quiz feature via the Interaction Wizard and I've found that drag items assigned to the same type grouping, will only associate with one single target drop object. Is this a limitation of the drag drop wizard or a limitation of Captivate 8?

       

      I did successfully create a simple many to many drag drop when every drag item was unique, however when duplicating drag items and assigning them to the same type, it seems all the same type want to only have one single valid drop target.

       

      For example, creating an electronic circuit board quiz, I might have 3 resistors of the same value ( i.e. drag images of resistors ), that I want to be accepted by multiple drop targets ( i.e. rectangles that make up the circuit board ) that will accept a resistor drop item of that same value, as a valid drop item. In essence any of those 3 resistors of the same value, can be dropped in any of the circuit grid 3 cells and all still be correct. I can't seem to make this work, when those 3 resistor images are grouped into one type in the Drag drop Wizard. It only allows them to point to one drop container.

       

      Thanks,
      David

        • 1. Re: Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.
          Lilybiri CommunityMVP

          You will have to create multiple correct answers, and don't use type in this case. Only with the wizard you'll not be able to do it. I never used the wizard in CP8, because it seems not to be available for Expert mode, so I cannot help you with it but based on what I know about previous version, the wizard is too limited to create this kind of functionality for D&D

          • 2. Re: Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.
            Devraj Community Member

            hi david,

            As per my understanding of your issue, You have 3 resistors(drag sources) and 3 Boxes to accept resistors(drag targets). Any box can get any resistor making 6 possible combinations which is 6 multiple correct answers possible.You can do this by 2 ways.

            1st way

            1.Make all the resistors as single drag source type.

            2.Make boxes as a single drag target type.

            3.Now match single drag source with drag target.

             

            or

             

            2nd way

            1.You can have multiple correct answers which is 6 as in this case.

            2.You can set multiple answers through correct answers dialog box.

             

             

            then

            now for every target make the accept count to 1 source. You can choose either "On accept replace" or "on accept go back" action.

             

            Try this and let me know if this is what you wanted to achieve.

             

            Devraj

            • 3. Re: Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.
              David-OZ Community Member

              Hi Devraj,

               

              Thanks for advice. The second approach is what I need. Each resistor needs to be able to go in any drop target designated for resistors. That way it doesn't matter which resister is dragged and drop into the 3 allocated targets if they all have the same resistor value. etc... Certainly I would like that flexibility to both have or not have that functionality as required for each situation.

               

              It seems the Wizard is no good for this seeing Lily's advice above. Once you group items, they only can be dropped into one drop target. That's fine in some situations, but other situations might require more flexibility to make usage easier, to avoid the one in three chance of dropping the correct item into the correct target if all items are exactly the same. e.g. if you have 3 ten Ohm resistors, you don't want to have to try up to 3 times to drop the same correct resistor in one drop target. You want them to be able to be dropped into any of the targets allocated for those 3 objects on the first drag drop attempt. etc.... 

               

              I will have a go at the second approach. Only been using this Captivate for a week, but it looks impressive.

               

              David

              • 4. Re: Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.
                Devraj Community Member

                Thanks David for Your feedback on captivate. It encourages us to provide much better product.

                 

                I think the first way is a bit Easy as your case is concerned. Since the Drag sources and targets are similar.

                 

                devraj

                • 5. Re: Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.
                  David-OZ Community Member

                  Devraj,

                   

                  Actually I think I used your first method.   I had about 10 drag sources, some of the same type and some not and 25 drop targets of the same type to deal with.

                   

                  The approach I used was to group some of the Drag Source Objects ( like common parts such as multiple wire connector images, 4 in total ) but not group the Drop Target objects ( 25 rectangular shapes that make up the circuit board grid ). That did work successfully. I'm slowly getting to understand the way this drag and drop object type grouping works.

                   

                  My next test is to Group the Drop Targets by Drop type that can accept the corresponding Drag type. Thus for my 5 x 5 grid of rectangles objects, the drop rectangle objects that are designated for a given wire connector, would be assigned a drop type of that wire connector. If this can work, it could save even more time, when setting the correct answers. i.e. I would just set the correct answer as a drag type and drop type relationship. I think this could make it easier if I had a really big grid of drop rectangles, as I won't have to specify every single drag drop object relationship.

                   

                  Unfortunately so far this method is not working. I keep getting the Incorrect Answer message when testing, even though I know it's the correct drag drop answer. I know the drag source group type works, but the drop target group type is not working in the correct answer association with the drag group type.

                  • 6. Re: Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.
                    David-OZ Community Member

                    Hi Devraj,


                    Do you know if there are any bugs with the drag drop quiz?  Grouped Drop Targets is not working for me as described in my prior post.


                    Thanks,

                    David

                    • 7. Re: Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.
                      Devraj Community Member

                      Hi David,

                       

                      Grouping the drop targets works fine. I think you are going wrong in setting up the Drag and drop settings. Also check the Correct Answers dialog box.It should be in sync with the matching of source and targets on slide.Sometimes deleting some source or targets, or Changing the matching may cause an issue.You need to open correct ans palette and delete the rows which have warning message(yellow icon).

                      Can i look your Drag and Drop settings in Drag and drop panel.? Can you please share your cptx file(interaction slide) or post the snap shot of your drag and drop settings.?

                      You can share your cptx file at( dgp at adobe dot com.)

                       

                      Devraj

                      • 8. Re: Captivate 8 Drag drop - Many to Many as correct answers? via type.
                        David-OZ Community Member

                        HI Devraj,

                         

                        Seems you are correct. I did a simpler test using a 3 x 3 grid of rectangular shapes as drop shapes and it worked fine using drop groups.

                         

                        I must have messed something up in my original more complex 5 x 5 drop grid of rectangular shapes.

                         

                        Now that I know it can work, so I will try again with a 5 x 5 drop grid of shapes.

                         

                        Thanks,
                        David