I don't see any new plans (or bundles) there.
Just Full Cloud, Single App and CCPP - the same as always.
I think the OP is looking for a Creative Suite-style bundle (e.g. Web Premium): something between Single App and Full Cloud.
Thanks for offering that. I have exhausted all the offers, as I understand it. An adobe person told me I could cancel my subscription and start another to get the $30/month again but I called later to be told that was not true. My point is not that I am looking for a temporary deal. I am wondering if Adobe will alter their pricing structure for people who use less applications or at least charge with some logical use based fee structure vs. all or nothing.
I believe she is referring to the plan that has the temporary discount. If you already exhausted that...like me. there are no new deals.
Yes, I suspected that.
But I interpreted your question as asking about the availability of permanent bundles other than Full Cloud or Single App. Not a temporary, honeymoon deal.
I had provided the link as reference to the present offers that we have. The suggestions of tkrose are quite sound & useful but at present we have the following array of CC offers.
The thing that started this for me today was that on my receipt for my payment of $53 for the month was this:
Ready To Upgrade?
An annual membership brings substantial savings to your monthly fee, and you’ll enjoy all the same benefits you do today.
It links to the same page as above. I can prepay for the year but is the same price ($599/ 12 months). It is misleading or at least confusing as there is no deal for prepayment.
There are only offers for new subscribers. I don't think that is much of an array...
I posted this at the suggestion of the adobe sales person I spoke with today. He said to provide feedback about my opinion of the current pricing structure. I suggest that anyone else that is paying $50/month for the potential use of 20? products and only uses a fraction of that give feedback to their opinion of current pricing structure. It was suggested that if enough people did express dissatisfaction, it would be reviewed.
That is exactly what I am asking about.
I cannot speak on behalf of Adobe. I'm just a regular user of their products like you.
However, I suspect Adobe's position would be that, given that a Single App membership is $20/month, if you use 3 or more apps then you're getting value out of the full Cloud. The more apps you use, the more value you get. Few people can really use more than half a dozen apps really well.
I don't think they see the need for tiered pricing bundles. Everyone using 3 or more apps (those apps will vary for everyone) is getting similar value. They'd prefer to encourage you to use more apps and services (e.g. Typekit) and get more value out of your membership.
I concede you are probably correct about their assumptions. They set up a pricing model which can, on some level make sense if you ignore their past. I think the subscription service is a way to force people to constantly upgrade and keep them on pace with their development costs and to ensure revenue stream and profits. The development although a good thing in some cases and maybe not or superfluous in others, is part of their business model. They have to keep putting new stuff out for people to upgrade to, to generate revenue, to pay people and grow etc. Practically, I assume that people were not upgrading as often as they would have liked. The subscription method ensures regular revenue, takes care of some distribution issues and generally makes things better for them. And why wouldn't they try it?
I guess I did not mind paying $30 a month for software I use and the rest that I did not use and will not use. $50/month is, in my opinion too much. It is like charging $50 a month for all you can eat buffet and knowing people will only eat $10 - $30 dollars worth. But I guess that if most people will pay it (me included I guess) then that is what it is worth.
Microsoft's 365 is roughly $10/month for access to all their stuff (for 5 users) and they give you extra stuff (disk storage etc.), not just the applications you don't use. Also Microsoft's system works well. I have nothing but trouble with upgrades etc. for Adobe stuff and tech support that is reading from screens.
The point of this is to give feedback as suggested by the Adobe sales person. He suggested that if enough folks had complaints about the current pricing model they might review it. I am not against companies making money. I am not asking for a handout. I just want to pay for what I use. I am questioning whether their one size fits all pricing model is fair for folks who use less. I don't see why web people should pay a subscription for software they will never use and vice versa. I don't see why it should not be more flexible.
Yes, I understand your point.
Let's see if Adobe is receptive although I still think they believe that full Cloud membership is excellent value for most customers so they want more people to use more apps in the Adobe eco-system simply because they now have access to them. I've seen no interest in tiered pricing bundles from them since the Cloud launched.
You basically repeated the same answer twice almost verbatim which makes me think you are a plant for adobe.
Why the sudden aggression? I was just closing out a civil discussion with a final thought.
I'm just a regular Adobe customer just like you, not an Adobe apologist. I have plenty of beefs with Adobe myself but they do a lot of good stuff too.
I hope Adobe take your perspective on board.