what is the point in this "BScatalyst" if can not use your own domain name?!

You must not understand something.

You can use your own domain name once you take your site live. When you are developing your site you work on a site-name.businesscatalyst.com domain. Once you upgrade the site to a live site you can add your own domain name.

See these two links:

http://helpx.adobe.com/business-catalyst/partner/going-live-guide.html

Getting started

Where did you read you can not?

You can, lots of us have lots of sites all running their own domain. You have full ability for domain management, A-records, NS Records, MX records... ETC in BC.

Lots of documentation and information out there, this is just one  - Adding a domain name to your site and taking site live

Hi there,

You have some very big misconceptions with what Business Catalyst is.

But the point is if adobe is to trying to be a hosting provider Š it has to

communicate it on normal terms. The BScatlylist is for us novels, just BS!

Everything else of BS-cat, can we find out whenever we have secured the

fundamentals of hosting.

You call it by several names, none of them by what it is - Business Catalyst. Nothing else, that or BC.

You say it is a hosting provider - It is not, it is a Software as a Solution, A CMS system and a bit more in a SAAS format which being as such is a hosted solution. There is a clear difference with things like this and other SAAS solutions and just hosting.

They should also present their Cpanel to show a userfriendly interface.

Again, this is not hosting and there is no Cpanel. Management of your site is done from a decent admin with full UI.

The ad-ons, her called Business Catalyst something, is just that: an add-on

service !

I have no idea what you mean here, but there are no addons for BC, there are the apps and app store, but no wordpress like addons.

but i do not want to read 1.000 pages with 6 or 8 point small letter. The business cat service, is, an ad-on service, for the fundamental thing: the hosting.

No, the exact opposite, it is a lot more, it is an all in one solution with eCommerce, blog, marketing.. and much more in terms of CMS and online business management and being a SAAS it is a hosted solution, again, it is not hosting primarily and never has been.

then you you show the Cpanel. here you can put ad-ons,- like online visit analysis.

You have to be looking at something else and thinking it is Business Catalyst because there are no addons like this and no Cpanel.

But remember some of us is not interested in having many visitors because our site is not commercial !

We just have Adobe CC and want to have a site for other purposes.

Then that is not a website, its an intranet and something totally different. A website with no traffic is not a website.

What are the points you trying to make? Your first post was about not being able to have your own domain, two of us showed you can. The rest of your comments I can not find any point being made or any questions your asking. It seems to be meaningless and I think you really getting confused about what BC is.

I think you need to do a lot of research and a lot of reading.

The point is: adobe has NOTHING TO OFFER besides the software (muse) for

developing a site.

Sorry to repeat this a lot but your not correct here as well.

Muse came recently and is a simple tool to help get people into making sites from the graphics and design industry basically. BC Has a full template, layout and code system:

http://docs.businesscatalyst.com/dev-assets/reference#!/module-reference/photo-galleries/m odule_photogallery.html

It has API Access, it can be developed using any coding software from Dreamweaver to Coda 2. This for many is the primary method of creating BC websites and has been for years, even before Adobe purchased the BC company.

It is always being updated as you can see with the new rendering engine and liquid markup:

http://www.businesscatalyst.com/bc-blog

The point is the CC atracts amatures, like my self, to devope sites, but

they have NOTHING to offer on the hosting side of the work.

Sorry, but none of this is correct. CC is a service created by Adobe to take all its software into the cloud, it is not just there to develop sites. In terms of storing your work in the cloud that is one of its primary functions. Ignoring BC and websites you can store your files, PSD's through your Creative Cloud account.

Your post was put under moderation automatically by the forum software because how you posted it. The caps will do it.

everything above here are without ANY interest for the common amateur muse developer. Why do you think we use muse?!

I communicate, I read and know a lot of Muse developers, Again your not correct here as well. Sorry for repeating this but this again simply not true and pretty much everything you have said so far is that.

A lot of Muse users develop very nice looking but basic in function websites, there are a lot who would like to do more such as eCommerce etc, you are not the norm in your thinking off what everything is from CC, BC and the web.

CMS me here, SAAS me there, and business analysis me over again. IT IS OF NO INTEREST FOR US MILLIONS OF MUSE USERS!

Again, this is not true. Most of the posts I see from Muse users is how they do more with BC and many want and ask how to upgrade their CC BC to offer more features. The Creative Cloud version of BC is the VERY BASIC version of it, it does not have most of the abilities it has if you have one of the higher plans.

See here:

US Yearly Pricing | Adobe Business Catalyst

A complementary product to Muse is HOSTING!

Creative Cloud is Adobe moving into the Cloud space for their products and services, Muse is an entry level designer based peace of software to create basic websites. Business Catalayst is what you do not want to research into and hosting is just storage basically.

Adobe Business Catalyst

In terms of your website, people make sites just for family etc and put them on the web, Real domain or not you can build a site for what ever you want. But its a website and will be out there on the web. Search engines like google will index such sites so if you do not want them out there on the internet do not create them to make them available.

I do not mean to be rude, but your comments are not valid and going no where. You not really understanding what anything is, your complaining about things are not true or things that you think do not exist when they do.

I have been developing sites on the Business Catalyst platform for over 5 years and using other coding platforms and other CMS's for longer then that. I am considered one of the people outside BC who know the platform for the most so please trust in what I am saying here.

If you want just hosting just use Creative Cloud or something like dropbox.

If you want to learn more about the web or building sites etc I suggest you go lean, there are many great resources out there.

In terms of your other post about what is BC good for other then commercial business.

I refer you to the BC site again - It is for Online Business - That is what it is primarily there for, complaining about a product that is designed and built for the goals it has been scoped to do is really strange, it is like complaining about Pepsi for making something you drink when you want to eat something. If your looking for something else or a different product you can look elsewhere.

What are you after?

What do you want?

What are your goals here?

You have yet to state any of these, people here will be happy to help but you need to stay what you need.

From what I'm seeing, Seneca, your posts are not constructive. I hear things are pretty calm over at Drupal. Why don't you go stir up trouble over on their forums? Or, if you have a legitimate question, go do some research on one of the many links Liam has provided you. But for now, you are wasting time for people who are here to help, and you are wasting space on a forum where others actually seek help. Please respect that.

Well i have had basic providers for some 16 years now yor product is not in

the basis static web segment. It is not even competetive in this segment.

It is not my product, I use BC to develop rich and engaging websites like many others. In terms of your statement, you have shown not to understand anything from SAAS, BC itself, Creative Cloud etc, you have no basis of fact or information in your statement.

Defining BC, what it is, what it is not!

You have been given links to the website, you can read about what it is there.

You keep saying Millions of users etc and that you represent them, Sorry but it is yourself and People are trying to help you but you are not stating any core problems or outlining any true questions. BC is NOT a personal website system and it NEVER has claimed to be anywhere.

What is happening here is that your an inexperienced, you have found through Creative Cloud that you have 5 free very basic BC sites and without doing any reading, research or learning managed to create a site for yourself. You have it, it is there up and running. But outside of that you have very little knowledge on any of the topics here.

If you would like more links to places to learn Business Catalyst etc, Make a new thread and ask the right questions etc and I and others will be happy to help, but I am locking this thread now as it is going no where.