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1. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Silkrooster Jul 18, 2014 10:21 PM (in response to Picturequest)This can happen if you use save for web instead of save as. The difference is save as embeds the ppi in the metadata, where as save for web does not (or by default is doesn't) As long as the pixel dimensions did not change, you are fine. The ppi only tells the printer the final printing size. Which you or the printer can do easily in photoshop or another app.
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2. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Noel Carboni Jul 18, 2014 10:28 PM (in response to Picturequest) -
3. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Silkrooster Jul 18, 2014 10:47 PM (in response to Noel Carboni)That's a good thought, if any metadata was added due to camera raw the jpg would by default open in camera raw. This is not really necessary any more with the latest version of photoshop as it can edit the image using the camera raw filter instead.
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4. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Noel Carboni Jul 18, 2014 10:59 PM (in response to Silkrooster)What's the default for the setting I noted above nowadays? Seems to me it was set by default to open JPEGs through Camera for quite a while, but it's been so long since I set up a clean system (without migrating settings) I honestly don't know if they've changed that. As you say, since one can now run Filter - Camera Raw, it's hardly necessary.
-Noel
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5. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
gener7 Jul 18, 2014 11:12 PM (in response to Picturequest)That reminds me, some email programs take out the print metadata in a jpeg, so you may want to think about using that as file transport as well.
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6. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
station_two Jul 18, 2014 11:53 PM (in response to Picturequest)It's really none of my business if you deliberately want to lose image quality, but why on earth are you saving images to be printed in lossy format like JPEG? The image quality deteriorates every single time you open and save a JPEG.
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7. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Silkrooster Jul 18, 2014 11:55 PM (in response to Noel Carboni)To my knowledge, the default is only when the metadata has been edited for it to open in camera raw. But to be honest, I may have changed it once way back when and never changed it again. Most of my jpg's don't have any metadata edits so they all open normally.
But as I mentioned the filter, the default could be changed to never on newer versions and it wouldn't harm anyone. In fact, they could remove that option all together now if they chose to. Kind of redundant now, I believe.
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8. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Picturequest Jul 18, 2014 11:56 PM (in response to gener7)I am set up for JPG to open in Camera Raw. If I need to do a quick tweak its right there. If you say that is not good, I can change that.
So As long as I save as... when the JPG is opened in another app, sans Camera Raw, it will report the actual DPI and size?
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9. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Silkrooster Jul 18, 2014 11:56 PM (in response to gener7)Thats a good point. I forgot some will do that for catching viruses, etc. But I normally don't have a need for the web email sites, so those features are not all that fresh in my mind anymore.
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10. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Silkrooster Jul 19, 2014 12:29 AM (in response to Picturequest)When camera raw opens, click the link at the bottom center of the dialog box. That is where you type in the ppi. To my knowledge that setting sticks, until you change it again.
I tried opening a 300ppi image and a 96ppi image and both showed 300ppi for that setting. So it looks like it is a sticky.
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11. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Noel Carboni Jul 19, 2014 7:47 AM (in response to Picturequest)Picturequest wrote:
So As long as I save as... when the JPG is opened in another app, sans Camera Raw, it will report the actual DPI and size?
Yes, but why not check it yourself?
-Noel
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12. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Picturequest Jul 19, 2014 10:19 AM (in response to Noel Carboni)I'm just verifying that PS does indeed write a JPG at the intended DPI, not default to 72dpi. If you ever deal with service bureaus, you will know they can definitely open this jpg, see its 72 dpi and print it low res 4x the size. Even if I write the dimensions in the file name. If the doc is 240 fpi, and you save it, in ANY format, it should remember that. Not switch to 72 dpi.
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13. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Noel Carboni Jul 19, 2014 10:22 AM (in response to Picturequest)Did you try disabling the setting I showed above, Picturequest?
If Photoshop opens the image directly (NOT through Camera Raw) the ppi value is preserved. Try it. Then use Filter - Camera Raw for any needed tweaks.
-Noel
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14. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
Silkrooster Jul 20, 2014 9:25 PM (in response to Picturequest)Even if for some reason the ppi was @72 ppi The printer would still scale the image to fit which will increase its ppi. As I stated the ppi is just a figure that is stored in the metadata, the number of pixels don't change.
If there was an issue with the ppi not saving in the metadata using save as, complaints would be all over this forum, but there is none. So the answer is yes the ppi is saved to the metadata using save as.
This is not hard to verify, you can look at the files properties in your image viewer (explorer or finder)
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15. Re: Saving/exporting sRGB Jpegs for printing
station_two Jul 20, 2014 9:57 PM (in response to Silkrooster)Silkrooster wrote:
…The printer would still scale the image to fit…
Of course any printer worth their salt could and would. If I knew the OP, I would have said "look for another printer".




