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1. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
Ann Bens Jul 20, 2014 12:20 PM (in response to jaanshen)double clicking and opening on the same frame is CS2 and earlier and CC14 only.
Try hitting W (ripple trim next edit to playhead) The opisit is Q.
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2. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
jaanshen Jul 20, 2014 12:46 PM (in response to Ann Bens)Aagh, if only I could use CC2014… I'm too afraid of all the freeze/crash stories I've heard and my project schedule can't risk it.
But thanks for letting me know CC2014 works like that.
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3. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
Ann Bens Jul 20, 2014 1:53 PM (in response to jaanshen)If you close the clip in the source monitor first then double click it should give you the frame.
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4. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
shooternz Jul 20, 2014 2:07 PM (in response to jaanshen)"Match Frame" - 'F'
May differ in versions of PPRO
Check the KBD shortcuts list
Edit to playhead shortcut maybe of interest to you as well.
Trim Monitor works and saves steps.
Check out and understand Edit Modes in PPro. --- many ways to skin the cat.
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5. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
jaanshen Jul 20, 2014 3:56 PM (in response to Ann Bens)@Ann Bens
Unfortunately I had tried that… doesn't work in (the first) CC.
Thanks again for the responses though.
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6. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
jaanshen Jul 20, 2014 4:05 PM (in response to shooternz)Thanks for the suggestions shootemz.
Unfortunately, match frame will open up the master clip and not the clip instance that is in the actual timeline (at least in CC).
Trim monitor is great & useful, but not for what I'm doing in particular. You are indeed right about many ways to skin the cat… I just am hoping to find a very quick & simple way to skin it… especially since I do this particular skinning like 300 times a day, ha.
Also, if it makes me sound less like a whiner, I've been editing since Premiere v4.2 and was a past FCP7 and Media100 professional user. Just a little disappointing to see that it takes so many clicks to apply an out point while editing from the timeline and was hoping there was something I didn't know of. But thanks again for the info shootemz, and thanks to Ann for pointing out that CC2014 does do what I'm accustomed to… I just gotta wait for it to be stable.
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7. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
shooternz Jul 20, 2014 4:11 PM (in response to jaanshen)Can you explain a little more how you work with an out point in a timeline?
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8. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
jaanshen Jul 20, 2014 7:15 PM (in response to shooternz)Preferred method: paste in my "good take" clip into my "edit" timeline from my "review" timeline, which means it has handles. I scrub to where I want my in point, double click the clip to open it in the source window, hit my in point hotkey. Then I scrub to my desired out frame, double click the clip to open it in the source window, then hit my out point hotkey. Do this a bunch of times for a scene and then close the gaps.
In case anyone suggests it, I don't like three point editing, and I'm usually the director as well and find that this method is simply the fastest to get a working assemble edit up and running especially with narrative projects.
Presently I'm using the mouse/GUI to manually move the in and/or out points, which requires some paying attention and needless to say is slower. But like I mentioned, CC2014 does what I'm wanting and it'll be great to use it once it's got its issues ironed out.
Thanks for your help.
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9. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
shooternz Jul 20, 2014 7:33 PM (in response to jaanshen)Sounds slow and a lot of manual work but everyone to their own
FWIW
When I edit from selects in the timeline ..
I go "T" .
Edit Mode jumps playhead to closest edit point and opens Trim Monitor
Click or Drag...preview (play around edit)...done.
No gaps to ripple delete.
Generally I drop the selects in to sequence from Source Monitor (I and O then overlay/insert via shortcuts)
Then I.,... 'T" (Trim Monitor) or use Edit Modes in sequence to tweak and tighten the points.. (Edit to Playhead)
Still no ripple delete.
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10. Re: Set a clip's out point on current frame in timeline?
jaanshen Jul 20, 2014 7:50 PM (in response to shooternz)Yeah, I don't like setting in/outs from the master clips or whatever Premiere calls them. I like having a record of what I had done in my "review" timeline for when the story undoubtedly gets reshaped a month later, ha.
Also, I have a simple workaround that will ripple delete all gaps in an entire timeline in five seconds, so it's no big deal.
Always interesting to hear others' workflows though.



