4 Replies Latest reply on Jul 27, 2014 6:37 AM by areohbee

    Keywords when exporting

    Alp Er Tunga Level 1

      I think that "write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy" check box on the export dialog is not functioning properly.

      When I select it, the keyword list panel creates new keyword entries for the synonmys.

      When exporting, is there a way for including synonmys as keywords ... but without creating new entries for them in the keyword list panel?

        • 1. Re: Keywords when exporting
          johnrellis Most Valuable Participant

          I believe that:


          a. you are reimporting the exported pics back into the LR catalog, either manually or automatically via the "Add to this Catalog" option in the Export window, and

          b. the keywords being exported have the option "Export Synonyms" selected.


          What's happening is that LR exports the synonyms into the pic's metadata as top-level keywords, with no indication of hierarchy.  When the pic is reimported into LR, those top-level keywords get imported into the catalog and attached to the imported pic.   (The "Write Keywords as Lightroom Hierarchy" option has nothing to do with this behavior.)

           

          You can stop the synonyms from getting exported and reimported by unchecking the "Export Synonyms" option for each keyword with synonyms.  You'll have to do that one keyword at a time -- LR doesn't provide any batch editing of keywords.  (I think Rob Cole may have posted a script in these forums to change all your keywords in batch, but I can't find it.)

           

          In general, many people are not very satisfied with LR's synonym features.  Please see and vote on this topic in the official Adobe feedback forum:

           

          Lightroom: Better handling of exporting and reimporting keyword synonyms

           

          At the end of the topic is a suggestion to use the Exportant plugin, which may solve your problem.

          • 2. Re: Keywords when exporting
            areohbee Level 5

            I suspect John's assessment is right on the money.

             

            The only solutions I know of:

            * Resync keywords of exported/added photos with their masters after exporting/importing, e.g. using a plugin like Syncomatic or RelativeAntics (be sure to purge unused keywords from time to time), or

            * Use ExportMaster plugin to "auto-resync" them upon export (this functionality has not been ported to Exportant, yet) - won't created unused keywords which need purging.

             

            Neither solution is ideal, but it's either that or don't use synonyms, I guess.

             

            Plugins (easily found using internet search to include plugin name along with author name):

            * Syncomatic: John Beardsworth

            * RelativeAntics and ExportMaster: me (Rob Cole)

             

            Rob

            • 3. Re: Keywords when exporting
              Alp Er Tunga Level 1

              Yes, my situation is exactly the same as you described, I want to manage my exported JPEGs with Lr, so I add them to my catalog.

              Thanks a lot John and Rob ... for your advises for the solutions to this situation.

              • 4. Re: Keywords when exporting
                areohbee Level 5

                You're welcome Alper - but to be clear, if you are doing these one at a time, there is no need for a plugin, since Lr supports syncing keywords "1 to 1" (or 1 to many) just fine. But if you are doing multiple photos at once, a plugin will come in handy, since Lr has no facility to sync "many to many-related".

                 

                Rob