3 Replies Latest reply on Sep 13, 2014 6:20 AM by blanko 23

    Vertical text and Spotlight

    blanko 23

      I'm not sure whether this topic is more InDesign, PDF or MacOSX related.

       

      See this document.

       

      Is it possible to make the number in the bottom left corner, searchable for Spotlight (MAC).

      The number is set vertically due to corporate guidelines.

       

      The file doesn't show up with a Spotlight search for that number.

      In Acrobat, the text is fully searchable. Even MAC's own Preview app can find the vertical text, which makes me wonder why Spotlight doesn't index it.

      Even google seems to index the vertical text.

       

      I don't want to add the number to the filename either, because we have strict file naming conventions to keep everything clear.

       

      Thanks in advance!

        • 1. Re: Vertical text and Spotlight
          Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

          I would say you should ask Apple this question.

          • 2. Re: Vertical text and Spotlight
            John Mensinger Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            Hmm...really I wouldn't even call that "vertical" text. It's only rotated, (meaning it surprises me that any search misses it just for that reason).

             

            Of course I can't account for Spotlight's shortcomings. If you don't come up with any other solution, I'd suggest trying things like setting the number on the page "invisibly." Methods that might work (for the purpose of search) include text with no fill color or perhaps masked behind another object; even if it's just a white-filled rectangle.

            • 3. Re: Vertical text and Spotlight
              blanko 23 Level 1

              Meanwhile I did some tests.

               

              It appears rotated text IS spotlight-searchable, BUT words are seperated in parts.

              For example: the text "ROTATED"

              At 30°, spotlight finds the file until i type the "E" character.

               

              30°: ROTAT - ED

              60°: ROTA - TED

              90°: RO - TA - TE - D

               

              It seems to split the words, and spotlight sees the parts as different words.

              While acrobat, mac preview etc. can search any combination characters, spotlight needs the first character of the word (it would never find "OME WOR" when "SOME WORDS" is in the file).

               

              I tried using tags, hyperlinks / bookmarks, script labels etc, many different PDF export options (PDF tags, invisble objects, PDF versions,…).

              I also played with some InDesign text controls that could cause the text splitting, like kerning/tracking settings, opentype features, hyphenation turned off...

              Also with mirroring (mirrored text is indexed by the way), vertical text in a non-rotated table.

              None of the above made the file spotlight-searchable.

              Opening the PDF in Illustrator shows the the text as 1 part, so I don't know why spotlight sees the words as seperate parts.

               

              John's invisible text-option looks like the solution to go with.

              Perhaps the "linked content" feature in can handle this, to make sure the visible and invisble text is always synced. (just switched from CS5.5, and didn't test that feature yet).