3 Replies Latest reply: Sep 24, 2014 2:25 PM by gcnphkr RSS

    Subclips Not in Project Panel and Not Asked to Save Clips

    gcnphkr Community Member
    gcnphkr Sep 21, 2014 5:14 PM

      I've created subclips on several clips and they all show when I click on a clip, but it does not ask me to save them, Ctrl-S does nothing and thus I have no subclips in my Project panel. I exported to Premiere to see if they showed up in there, but no luck, just the full clips.

       

      Please advise as to what I'm doing wrong as this is the best tool for me as I'm creating a documentary and have a lot of footage that will not be used in single clips.

       

      Adobe Prelude CC 2014

      Windows 8.1

      Screenshot (1).jpg

        • 1. Re: Subclips Not in Project Panel and Not Asked to Save Clips
          Ada_Wang Adobe Employee
          Ada_Wang Sep 21, 2014 8:42 PM (in response to gcnphkr)

          Hi -

           

          Thanks for your post.

           

          Saving is an automatic function in Prelude. Every change to items in the Project panel triggers a project save in the background automatically, adding markers or metadata to a clip is automatically saved as well.

           

          However, some formats are not yet supported for storing metadata from Adobe tools. From the screenshot you posted, I saw your clips were .MTS clips, naked MTS files are one of the unsupported formats for Adobe Prelude CC 2014 (MTS while in their folder structure are OK, but if you copy the assets outside the folder structure then Adobe does not know where to save the metadata). You could click on the lower right corner of the red "x" icon to read the error messages. So the markers were not actually saved that's why you couldn't see them in Premiere Pro.

           

          Currently, the workaround for this is if your .MTS medias are from AVCHD folder, please ingest the entire folder then do logging. Or you could transcode the .MTS clips to the supported media formats (for example, H.264 format) for logging. BTW, we are going to support logging for any format in the coming release.

           

          Hope this helps.

           

          Thanks,

          Ada

          • 2. Re: Subclips Not in Project Panel and Not Asked to Save Clips
            michaelgoshey Adobe Employee
            michaelgoshey Sep 21, 2014 9:02 PM (in response to Ada_Wang)

            Hi,

             

            As Ada points out at the end of her post, in the upcoming release (announced last week) will have what we call "Generic XMP File Handling". This means all media formats will now be supported*.

             

            Important asterisk note here however. What this really means is Adobe apps can now WRITE metadata to these formats that haven't had previous metadata support. You can log temporal metadata (markers) as well as add static metadata. But this new generic support does not read any metadata from those formats.

             

            A little background. Adobe has written what we call Smart XMP Handlers for those formats already supported prior to this release. Smart XMP Handlers are capable of reading metadata from the format and adding that into the XMP format that our apps understand. We can also write metadata to XMP with the old smart handlers. What's different for those formats which don't have Smart Handlers (those formats that will rely on the new Generic XMP support) is they don't attempt to read native camera format metadata. They only allow you to add new metadata.

             

            Hope this helps!

             

            Thanks,

            Michael

            • 3. Re: Subclips Not in Project Panel and Not Asked to Save Clips
              gcnphkr Community Member
              gcnphkr Sep 24, 2014 2:25 PM (in response to gcnphkr)

              Thank you, that was exactly the problem, I knew it had to be something simple I was missing. This might actually help my workflow as now I can be sure all my videos are in the same format when they go into Premiere as I'll be shooting with several different cameras, though all at 1080 24p. Though it might take a little more prep time as I'll need to encode more video than I otherwise would have, but I'm ok with that. Thank you again.