McAfee and Flash Player - STOP IT!!!!

I guess I didn't thoroughly explain as well as I thought I had.

The "unticking" is precisely what I am complaining about.  If Adobe wants to include McAfee with app install/upgrade setups, fine.. JUST DON'T DEFAULT THE CHECKBOX TO ON!!!!

Please re-read my original post (read it, don't 'scan' it looking for keywords).. my primary complaint is with the fact that Adobe is including a sub-par AV package with Flash Player install/upgrade.  Beyond that ("if there is something PREVENTING you from dropping McAfee from the Flash Player installs (like some kind of horrid contractual obligation)"), Adobe is (most likely) relying upon either people's desire to install something quickly (thus not seeing that the checkbox is checked for McAfee); or people who are not 'seasoned' users and don't realise that companies who don't have scruples will try to trick them into installing something they don't necessarily want along with what they do want.

I find this practice deplorable.  Not just because it's unethical to prey upon common practices of clicking the SETUP button without necessarily reading EVERYTHING, but also because (as I mentioned in my original post) installing an AV package on a system that already HAS an AV package can cause issues.

To recap.. I would prefer that Adobe drop McAfee.  If Adobe CAN'T drop McAfee from the install/upgrade package, please don't default the "Include McAfee" checkbox to on.

Pat Willener wrote:

 

Adobe technical staff (who do indeed read posts in this forum) are not the ones making the decisions regarding 3rd-party bundled software.  Adobe has to somehow finance the development teams for free software like Flash Player.

 

However, it is 100% up to you if you want to use the default installers with the bundled crapware, or use the offline installers without any additional crap.  The download links for the offline installers are posted at least a dozen times every day in the Flash Player forum.  They are also published here http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/installation-problems-flash-player-windows.html#mai n-pars_text_4

Pat,

Thank you for your reply.

If the technical staff don't make that decision, they should be able to get the word to those who do make the decision.

I was not aware that there were any offline installers that do not include the crapware.  Thank you for the heads-up!    I'll bookmark the link you provided, and use that to update my Flash, instead of allowing Flash to direct me to the crapware link.  Much appreciated!

V/r,

^_^

A possibility, and much more credible than Adobe defaulting the box to unchecked.