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    Sound track becomes unsynchronized in PRE12

    The Hangerbum Community Member
    The Hangerbum Oct 18, 2014 7:29 AM

      Using a off the shelf Toshiba VHS/DVD copy machine I converted all my old VHS home movies to DVD. The resulting files are in (.vob) file format.. They play normally with most media player software I have access to. I am editing these videos now for content, adding titles etc. and creating a cleaner more presentable DVD. Using PE12 in expert mode I add the files to the timeline, do my titles and edits and then review the finished product. Sometimes, about halfway through a project I notice the soundtrack will suddenly get out of sync by about 3-4 seconds. Is there a tool or a fix for this ? I am not deliberately or knowingly deleting any part of the soundtrack without removing the same section of corresponding video...PS this phenomenon does not occur in certain other editing software I have tried...but I much prefer PE12....PLEASE help.

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        • 1. Re: Sound track becomes unsynchronized in PRE12
          John T Smith CommunityMVP
          John T Smith Oct 18, 2014 7:58 AM (in response to The Hangerbum)

          Directly editing a VOB... or Ripping a VOB to edit using a note from Jim Simon

          -http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1322647

          • 2. Re: Sound track becomes unsynchronized in PRE12
            A.T. Romano Community Member
            A.T. Romano Oct 18, 2014 5:21 PM (in response to The Hangerbum)

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            For Premiere Elements, I have not found it necessary to convert the video file VOB files to any other format.

             

            When you refer to soundtrack, is this a soundtrack file that you have imported to the Timeline's Soundtrack independent of any audio file that may have come from the VHS tape to DVD (part of the VTS_01_1.VOB and others in that series)?

             

            How are your ripping (copying) these video VOBs from the DVD-VIDEO structure....have you inserted your DVD disc into the DVD burner tray and then opened Premiere Elements and used its Add Media/DVD cameras and computer drive/Video Importer to get the file(s) into the project?

             

            And, you say that you do a lot of editing before you notice the out of sync audio. So, I would ask "If you playback the whole VTS_01_1.VOB in Premiere Elements before any edits, is the audio video in sync?

             

            The answer to all of the above should direct us in developing an appropriate troubleshooting strategy pointing to cause and effect.

             

            Thank you.

             

            ATR

            • 3. Re: Sound track becomes unsynchronized in PRE12
              The Hangerbum Community Member
              The Hangerbum Oct 19, 2014 7:17 AM (in response to A.T. Romano)

              The file format appears to be the issue as I tried converting to .mov and so far it worked at least on one file.....Thank you for the advice......

               

              AVR I will try to respond to your questions as it may still be helpful but I am after all a consumer and not a tech..so forgive what may seem  two dimensional answers.....

              The sound tracks are verbatim from original VHS sound recordings. They were converted to DVD with a over the counter Toshiba VHS to DVD burner/player. I determined the file format was .vob by looking at the files on each dvd I created in this way.....

               

              I have tried to pull or rip files in both manners after I found the sound track issues....first I tried to pull them into PE12 straight from the home made DVD... Noting the same soundtrack issues I then loaded the DVD files to my hard drive and then tried to pull them into my project from there....same sound issue. I then edited the same files and successfully burned a DVD with a normal sound track using the MS Moviemaker software....however this is not the software I prefer....but, using it to convert vob to mov helped me make a file I can use in PE12 now....

               

              Last, the editing I have mentioned is to cut sections of the video/audio out for time, irrelevant material or just bad video...I add titles and subtitles on additional tracks... the original timeline is always edited in whole sections..... never just video or just audio... and...yes I have tried to play the entire video in PE12 before any editing takes place... same sound issues.... it is with out a doubt, a compatibility issue with vob files and PE12.....so converting to another file format should should be OK and only a minor inconvenience.....

               

              PS..something that may deserve another "Topic" or may be relevant here is the "style" option has stopped working in my titles module. I was using it to make very nice shadow letters in my titles and text.... after about three edited videos.... "Style" is now blank. I was thinking of reloading PE12 once my last project is burned and I have no more projects to lose..... suggestions?

               

              Thanks very much for your time...............

              • 4. Re: Sound track becomes unsynchronized in PRE12
                A.T. Romano Community Member
                A.T. Romano Oct 19, 2014 10:02 AM (in response to The Hangerbum)

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                The applying text style in the Expert workspace of Premiere Elements 12 is a known issue.

                 

                It is resolved by updating from 12 to Update 12.1 using an opened project's Help Menu/Update.

                The 12.1 Update is supposed to have other attributes as well. If you have not updated 12 to 12.1,

                please do so.

                 

                Also, if you lose all the Styles under the Styles section of the titler, then (assuming Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 64 bit) go to

                Libraries/Documents/Adobe/Premiere Elements/12.0 and its Styles folder and delete the workingset.prsl file or just

                rename it from workingset.prsl to workingset.prslOLD.

                 

                ATR

                • 5. Re: Sound track becomes unsynchronized in PRE12
                  The Hangerbum Community Member
                  The Hangerbum Oct 19, 2014 3:01 PM (in response to A.T. Romano)

                  Thank you!   I had already updated to 12.1...still no styles available.... I will follow your recommendations regarding deletion of the workingset.prsl file

                  • 6. Re: Sound track becomes unsynchronized in PRE12
                    The Hangerbum Community Member
                    The Hangerbum Oct 19, 2014 3:14 PM (in response to The Hangerbum)

                    What an awesome resource this forum is!!  ATR your recommendation was spot on...... Styles are back........ Thanks very much!!

                    • 7. Re: Sound track becomes unsynchronized in PRE12
                      A.T. Romano Community Member
                      A.T. Romano Oct 19, 2014 3:44 PM (in response to The Hangerbum)

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                      Thanks for the follow up with the great news. Thanks for giving the suggestion a try.

                       

                      Any questions or need clarification, please never hesitate to ask.

                       

                      Best wishes.

                       

                      ATR