4 Replies Latest reply: Nov 2, 2014 5:23 AM by AkkaProductions RSS

    PE13 save problem after importing PE12 projects

    AkkaProductions Community Member
    AkkaProductions Nov 1, 2014 5:03 AM

      Hi Guys,

      I recently installed PE13 and when opening projects I started in PE12, they open OK. But whan I save the project in PE13 after changes, I get a prel file that is less than 10% of the original size. And when opening the project again, I get Project not compatible with this version.

      I have tried save a copy but with same result.

      Is this a known error/bug or? Any workaround?

      Thanx,

      Goran

        • 1. Re: PE13 save problem after importing PE12 projects
          Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP
          Steve Grisetti Nov 1, 2014 6:46 AM (in response to AkkaProductions)

          Premiere Elements has never been good with backward compatibility.

           

          In my books I've always recommended against opening a project that was created with an older version of the program in a newer version of the program. Or, if you do, make sure you keep a backup copy in case you run into problems like this.

           

          My recommendation is to finish your version 12 project in version 12, then start your new projects in version 13.

          • 2. Re: PE13 save problem after importing PE12 projects
            AkkaProductions Community Member
            AkkaProductions Nov 1, 2014 7:15 AM (in response to Steve Grisetti)

            Thanx alot Steve.

            I have been thru PE10, 11, 12 and now 13, but this is the 1st time I see a major issue with saving the project.

            The PE12 project file opens OK, loads all media, does rendering etc., but as soon as I save it goes bananas.

            I do see a difference in that earlier versions of prel were in XML format which made it easy to modify should you need to replace disks etc.

            Now in 13, the prel file is not readable with regular tools, but it is a lot smaller files.

            As I have alot of work into one of the projects, I will try a workaround and export/burn into e.g. an mp4, and then import that file in a 13 project before I start re-install 12 again.

             

            Just one last question, do you have any experience having multiple versions of PE installed? Anything I need to worry about?

            Cheers,

            Goran

            • 3. Re: PE13 save problem after importing PE12 projects
              A.T. Romano Community Member
              A.T. Romano Nov 1, 2014 8:16 AM (in response to AkkaProductions)

              AkkaProductions

               

              So far I have not run into a situation where a saved closed Premiere Elements 12 Windows 7 64 bit project file would not open in Premiere Elements 13 Windows 7 64 bit. So, I am curious about the details of your situation.

               

              1. Is your Premiere Elements 12 and 13 on the same computer during this event? How did you open the 12 project file in 13?

               

              2. Have you moved, deleted, or renamed source media files folders that went into the saved closed 12 project file at any time during the course of this matter?

               

              3. When you successfully open the opened the 12 project file in 13, what specifically was the 10% loss related to

              a. just file size

              b. file size and content within the project (if within the project, what was missing)?

               

              4. When you wrote

              And when opening the project again, I get Project not compatible with this version.

              Is this version to which you refer = 13? Sounds like that is what you are saying.

               

              Thanks.

               

              ATR

              • 4. Re: PE13 save problem after importing PE12 projects
                AkkaProductions Community Member
                AkkaProductions Nov 2, 2014 5:23 AM (in response to A.T. Romano)

                Hej ATR,

                 

                To answer your questions

                1. Whenever I've upgraded PE, I have uninstalled the old version first, and after rebbot, installed the newer version. So I've never had multiple versions installed.


                2. I saved my projects in Sep, installed a new C drive and installed all apps etc. During that install, the former F drive with my projects, now became a D drive. I.e. same files on same disk, but withj a new drive letter.

                 

                3. The original ver 12 prel file was around 9 Mb, but saving it in ver 13, it became 0.5 Mb. The XML is replaced with some compressed format in ver 13.

                 

                After some trouble shooting yesterday and today, I think I found a workaround.

                - I reinstalled ver 12

                - Opened the prel file, and did a save copy

                - Opened the copy file in ver 13 which went OK.

                - Save the project in ver 13 format

                - And the file opens OK from within the application

                - The only issue with this project is that I cannot double-click on the prel file, nor use the quick load from existing project,  because it says the file is damaged. But if I do open project from within app via navigation, it seems to work OK after save, close and reopen again.

                 

                I can live with this for now. I leraned not to uninstall the old app until everything is checked......

                 

                I have tried opening other ver 12 projects, and they are all OK also after saving. So I guess this particular project carries a problematic line/code somewhere. But since it's not XML anymore, I can't do much more and will close my case now.

                 

                Thanx to Steve and ATR for your interest and help with this.

                 

                Cheers