5 Replies Latest reply on Nov 2, 2014 6:23 PM by A.T. Romano

    Lines & Ghosting

    crashovaride

      I'm attempting to put together a video of my daughter.  All the clips included in the video were shot on an iPhone 6 and loaded into Premiere Elements 13.  Some, but not all of these clips show lines and ghosting as shown in the image below when placed in the timeline, these lines and ghosting are also present in the exported files.  The lines and ghosting are not present in the original clips outside of Premiere Elements.  Any idea what i'm doing wrong?

       

      Thanks in advance

       

      lines and ghosting.PNG

        • 1. Re: Lines & Ghosting
          A.T. Romano Level 7

          crashovaride

           

          What computer operating system is your Premiere Elements 13 running on? For now, I will assume Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 64 bit.

           

          Please put your iPhone 6 video through the MediaInfo (Tree View)

          MediaInfo | SourceForge.net

          and let us know the properties of your cell phone video.

          Cell phone video can be a problem for Premiere Elements (several versions)

          a. out of sync audio

          b. failure to import

          c. other

          due to the cell phone video being recorded with a variable rather than constant frame rate. If we see 3 frame rates listed

          for your cell phone video in Media Info (min. in between max), then we will know that we are dealing with video recorded with

          a variable frame rate. We can try to convert the variable to constant frame rate with a free program such as HandBrake.

           

          We also have to establish that you (manually) or the program (automatically) are setting the correct project preset to match

          the properties of your cell phone video. After you import your video into the Premiere Elements project, tell us what you see

          under Edit Menu/Project Settings/General for Editing Mode, Timebase, Frame Size, and Pixel Aspect Ratio.

           

          Let us start here and then decide what next.

           

          Thank you.

           

          ATR

          • 2. Re: Lines & Ghosting
            crashovaride Level 1

            Thanks for the quick reply.

             

            Operating system is Windows 7 64 bit. Premiere Elements has been automatically setting the project settings. 

             

            PROJECT SETTINGS

            Editing Mode: HD 1080i

            Timebase: 29.97

            Frame Size: 1920x1080

            Pixel Aspect: Square Pixels (1.0)

             

             

            MEDIAINFO

             

            General

            Format                                   : MPEG-4

            Format profile                           : QuickTime

            Codec ID                                 : qt 

            File size                                : 11.9 MiB

            Duration                                 : 5s 698ms

            Overall bit rate                         : 17.4 Mbps

            Recorded date                            : 2014-10-30T16:37:07+0800

            Encoded date                             : UTC 2014-10-30 08:37:08

            Tagged date                              : UTC 2014-10-30 08:37:14

            Writing application                      : 8.0.2

            Writing library                          : Apple QuickTime

            ©xyz                                     : -31.7946+115.9897+032.178/

            Model                                    : iPhone 6

            Make                                     : Apple

            com.apple.quicktime.model                : iPhone 6

            com.apple.quicktime.software             : 8.0.2

            com.apple.quicktime.make                 : Apple

             

             

            Video

            ID                                       : 1

            Format                                   : AVC

            Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

            Format profile                           : High@L4.0

            Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

            Format settings, ReFrames                : 1 frame

            Codec ID                                 : avc1

            Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding

            Duration                                 : 5s 698ms

            Bit rate                                 : 17.4 Mbps

            Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

            Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

            Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

            Frame rate mode                          : Variable

            Frame rate                               : 30.000 fps

            Minimum frame rate                       : 30.000 fps

            Maximum frame rate                       : 31.579 fps

            Color space                              : YUV

            Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

            Bit depth                                : 8 bits

            Scan type                                : Progressive

            Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.279

            Stream size                              : 11.8 MiB (100%)

            Title                                    : Core Media Video

            Encoded date                             : UTC 2014-10-30 08:37:08

            Tagged date                              : UTC 2014-10-30 08:37:14

            Color primaries                          : BT.709

            Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709

            Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

             

             

            Audio

            ID                                       : 2

            Format                                   : AAC

            Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec

            Format profile                           : LC

            Codec ID                                 : 40

            Duration                                 : 5s 698ms

            Source duration                          : 5s 759ms

            Bit rate mode                            : Constant

            Bit rate                                 : 64.0 Kbps

            Channel(s)                               : 1 channel

            Channel positions                        : Front: C

            Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz

            Compression mode                         : Lossy

            Stream size                              : 44.1 KiB (0%)

            Source stream size                       : 44.5 KiB (0%)

            Title                                    : Core Media Audio

            Encoded date                             : UTC 2014-10-30 08:37:08

            Tagged date                              : UTC 2014-10-30 08:37:14

            • 3. Re: Lines & Ghosting
              A.T. Romano Level 7

              crashovaride

               

              Thanks for the reply with very helpful details of your Premiere Elements issue.

               

              1. Setting the Correct Project Preset

              a. Open Premiere Elements 13 to the Expert Workspace.

              b. Go to File Menu/New/Project and Change Settings

              c. In Change Settings, select the project preset

              NTSC

              DSLR

              1080p

              DSLR 1080p30@29.97

              Close out of there. When you do you, the new project dialog will appear with your designated

              project preset. Make sure that there is a check mark next to "Force Selected Project Setting on this Project" in the

              new project dialog. Then close out of there.

              d. Back in the Expert workspace, import your cell phone video, using the Premiere Elements 13 Add Media/Files

              and Folders/Project Assets. Drag the cell phone video from Project Assets to the Timeline Video 1/Audio 1.

              e. If there is an orange line over the Timeline content, render the Timeline content by pressing the Render button

              above the Timeline. After the Timeline content render, what is the quality of the playback of the Timeline content in the Edit area monitor?

               

              2. The suggested export

              Publish+Share

              Computer

              AVCHD

              with Presets = MP4 H.264 1920 x 1080p30

               

              If that works OK, then that is it. If problems persist, then we will have to address the issue of a variable frame rate. At that time, we will convert

              the variable frame rate to a constant 29.97 progressive frame per second frame rate using the HandBrake program.

              https://handbrake.fr/

               

              But, let us see what we can do without HandBrake.

               

              We will be watching for your results.

               

              Thank you.

               

              ATR

              • 4. Re: Lines & Ghosting
                crashovaride Level 1

                Thanks for all your help.  Changing the presets seems to have worked and there is no signs of the lines and ghosting.  I say seems to have worked because i haven't added all the clips to the project yet and only some of the clips showed problems the last time i set it up, the majority where fine even though all being taken by the iPhone 6.

                 

                Next question.  Is there any way to export my time line from the problematic project to this new project with the modified project settings. I've googled that i can not change the presets of an existing project and I don't really want to have to spend a couple of hours putting all the clips and soundtrack together again?

                • 5. Re: Lines & Ghosting
                  A.T. Romano Level 7

                  crashovaride

                   

                  Thanks for the reply and the good news. Great job in follow through of the troubleshooting.

                   

                  The Adobe party line is that you cannot change the project settings once they have been established for your project.

                  I have worked out a scheme to do this under certain conditions, but often is better to start anew rather than getting involved in the editing of the

                  Notepad document of the saved closed project whose project settings you want to change.

                  http://www.atr935.blogspot.com/2013/05/pe11-changing-project-settings-without.html

                   

                  There are techniques for transferring content from one project file to another, but I do not believe it would be to your advantage in using them. I

                  suspect you may be transferring problems instead of solutions.

                  a. exporting your Timeline of project 1 to a file format compatible with the project settings of project 2 into which you import that export

                  b. doing a copy/paste insert between project using ClipMate (Windows Only) in conjunction with Premiere Elements Windows. I have not yet tested it

                  for Premiere Elements 13.

                  ATR Premiere Elements Troubleshooting: PE: ClipMate Copy/Paste Between Projects

                   

                  What happens if you export the project previously set up and if you export it with the new export settings that I suggested. Does that work to give you good quality export? If so, then that is the way to go. Then import that export into a second project with new project preset suggested to join the rest of your files.

                   

                  Please let us know if any of that worked for you. Any questions or need clarification, please let us know.

                   

                  Thank you.

                   

                  ATR