Premiere 12 Publishing questions

Alan

You do not have much choice.

The regular DVD Player will playback DVD-VIDEO standard or widescreen on a DVD disc. Either way the resolution is

NTSC 720 x 480 and PAL 720 x 576. The difference between the standard and widescreen is that the widescreen has

a 16:9 flag that stretches the video for display after encoding (NTSC to 856 x 480; PAL 1056 x 576). Consequently, there is no choice for 1080i

or 1080p.

On the other hand, if you are thinking AVCHD format on DVD disc, then there are presets for higher resolution. But, the catch here is that

AVCHD format on DVD disc is not supported by the regular DVD Player.

What type of DVD Player is involved here and what are its specifications with regard to playback AVCHD format on DVD disc?

There is no 4K burn to disc in Premiere Elements.

Please clarify.

Thank you.

ATR

Alan

If you have the player support then go with what give you the best quality...For AVCHD format on DVD disc, I would probably start at 1920 x 1080p23.976 and then look at 1920 x 1080i29.97. I would consider them as your only two choices. Do not bother with any preset which depends of 16:9 flag to get to 1920 x 1080.

Excerpt from my Premiere Elements 12 First Look

AVCHD

 

Burn to:

Disc

Folder (4.7 GB)

Folder (8.5 GB)

 

Presets

H.264 1440 x 1080i NTSC Dolby

H.264 1440 x 1080i PAL Dolby

H.264 1440 x 1080p NTSC Dolby NEW

H.264 1920 x 1080i NTSC Dolby

H.264 1920 x 1080i PAL Dolby

H.264 1920 x 1080p NTSC Dolby NEW

 

Except for the two new 1080p presets with frame rate of 23.976 frames per second, the other presets all have 29.97 interlaced frames per second NTSC and 25 interlaced frames per second PAL.

 

 

Blu-ray

 

Burn to:

Disc

 

Presets

H.264 1440 x 1080i NTSC Dolby

H.264 1440 x 1080i PAL Dolby

H.264 1920 x 1080i NTSC Dolby

H.264 1920 x 1080i PAL Dolby

 

Frames rate is 29.97 interlaced frames per second NTSC and 25 interlaced frames per second PAL.

Please update us on your progress when you get the chance.

Thank you.

ATR

Alan

You want to keep away from 1440 x 1080 HD anamorphic 16:9 because it requires a 16:9 flag to stretch it to 1920 x 1080 for display after encoding.

When you use the 1920 x 1080 16:9, you avoid the dependency of the player to recognize a 16:9 flag. 1920 x 1080 is 16:9. You do not need a 16:9 flag.

So, please consider for comparison

H.264 1920 x 1080i NTSC Dolby - that is going to be at 29.97 interlaced frames per second

H.264 1920 x 1080p NTSC Dolby - that is going to be at 23.976 progressive frames per second (my first choice)

if there is no problem with the frame rates.

What kind of problems did you have with the direct burn to DVD within Premiere Elements - burner not recognized, media not recognized, or you felt that the quality was just not there?

I would keep the photos to 2200 x 1238 16:9 in accord with what you have already for the here and now. One 4K size is 3840 x 2160. You are going to have to let your computer resources limit what you can and cannot do. What computer operating system do you have? I have been assuming Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 64 bit. If that is correct, then you have in 12 a 64 bit application running in a 64 bit system with all the extra computer resources that go along with that.

In reviewing your thread, I think I somehow skipped my favorite questions

a. What are the properties of your source media - 1080p30? What is your project preset?

b. What computer operating system?

c. How much free hard drive space?

And, now...besides the burn to disc considerations, are you thinking about exporting your Timeline content to a file that you can put on a memory card or USB flash drive for play back with your player(s)?

More later.

ATR

In PRE 13, they have introduced Burn to ISO image. And I assume that there are free players that could play these ISO images. This would save you some disks.

Joshua L

With reference to your post number 8....

Yes, there are "free" ISO players out there, but read carefully. Many of the free ISO players are free for all except Blu-ray ISO Image. In that case, I guess you live with the watermark on the Blu-ray ISO Image playback using the free software or buy the licensed version of the computer program to get it all. In the quick Google search I did find one that claimed to be completely free.

Just be careful of your choices when downloading these free software for the computer. In recent times, the free software more and more has been accompanied by unwanted and nuisance software that messes up the computer, especially the browsers.

Please remind me, do your players attached to your TV support playback of DVD ISO Image, AVCHD DVD ISO Image, and Blu-ray ISO Image?

ATR

AlanKL

With regard to your post number 7....

For now I would go with burn to disc unless there was some compelling reason not to do that. If you have the computer resources and you are not

pushing the limits on the disc capacity so that the program is lowering the bitrate rate to make the fit, you should do fine. Then make copies of the disc if needed. You could always rip/copy the VIDEO_TS or BDMV from the disc afterward if necessary.

If you are thinking in terms of bonus backup products, then you need to decide if the Premiere Elements products, such as BDMV or VIDEO_TS,

or ISO Image, would be best served with a 3rd party software to take them to a format on disc in the disc file system.

Go with what works for you.

ATR

Alan

With regard to posts 8 and 9....I thought that I replying to post 8 thinking that was you and did not realize until later that it was a user named

Joshua L.

Although it would be convenient to have ISO players on the computer, my question at this time to you would be

Please remind me, do your players attached to your TV support playback of DVD ISO Image, AVCHD DVD ISO Image, and Blu-ray ISO Image?

ATR

Alan

With regard to your post 6

I just tried a test.  It played using:

Preset at NTSC AVCHD Full HD 1080 30

1. Is this Preset the best to use?

2. The output to the DVD I tried was 1920 x 1080p NTSC Dolby and it looked OK.

Is this Output selection the best to use?

 

3.(I'm using the same camera for still and videos.   The video is mostly a slide show of the photo stills. The videos are in 720 (AVI). Only short clips. The stills are 2933 x 2200 (I reduced them from a larger size).  4:3.  I'm using these so later if I want to create for UHDTV, I'll be ready. 

3. Is 2933 x 2200 OK to use for the current 1080?

1. You set the project preset to match the properties of your source media. If you have 1080p source, then you do not use a 1080i project preset

(NTSC AVCHD Full HD 1080i30). You use NTSC DSLR 1080p DSLR 1080p30.

In "3", you say the video is mostly a slideshow of photo stills. The videos are 720 (AVI). The stills are 2933 x 2200 4:3.

This sends up flares.

a. What is this 720 (AVI)? Is this video SD 720 x 480 4:3 or 16:9 @ 29.97 interlaced frames per second or 1280 x 720 16:9 @ 29.97 progressive frames per second?

b. Are the stills (2933 x 2200) already in the video (slideshow) or are you preparing to incorporate them in the Premiere Elements project along with this 720 (AVI) video?

This needs to be answered before all else. So, please do not get distracted by anything in posts 7 - 11. ISO Images and choices of AVCHD presets are secondary to this basic issue of setting up the project from start to finish.

You can get into serious problems with mismatches between aspect ratio of project preset and export presets.

2. and 3  comments to follow once we are in sync with 1.

Thanks.

ATR

Alan

Thanks for the additional information....

Project Preset

Set manually by you - the how to for manually setting the project preset before you import the source media is found at the bottom of the following

ATR Premiere Elements Troubleshooting: PE11: Accuracy of Automatic Project Preset (New Project Dialog) Setting 

NTSC

DSLR

1080p

DSLR 1080p30@29.97

Import your 1280 x 720p30 (16:9), import your 2933 x 2200 4:3 if you do not mind the black borders. If you do not want stills with black borders, then crop and resize the stills (to 1920 x 1080) before import.

Burn to AVCHD DVD using

Publish + Share

Disc

AVCHD disc

with preset = H.264 1920 x 1080pNTSC Dolby ( which will be 1920 x 1080 @ 23.976 progressive frames per second)

Does your player support that 1080p. If not, then use your only alternative

H.264 1920 x 1080iNTSC Dolby ( which will be 1920 x 1080 @ 29.97 interlaced frames per second)

The setup described above is done to favor the photos and to get them as sharp as possible in the end product. Because you

will be using Edit Menu/Preferences/General with Default Scale to Frame Size selected, both video and stills will preset in a 1920 x 1080

frame. The stills will have black borders if they are left at 4:3 in this 16:9 project. Since the video is 16:9, it should fill this 1920 x 1080 frame with the Default Scale to Frame Size in effect. I am not projecting any pixelation going from 1280 x 720 to 1920 x 1080 under the conditions described.

Please let me know if you are OK with this.

Thank you.

ATR

Alan

Thanks for the follow up with the good news that all is working well.

No matter how high the resolution of the photos that you import into the project, the size with be forced to the standard of the export, in this case, 1920 x 1080.

Importing the high resolution photos direct from the camera is not really going to get you a better end product and you run the risk of stressing out/slowing down/crashing the project somewhere along the line, during editing and/or exporting. How many photos, how high their resolution, and computer resources are going to define just how much you can get away with without issues.

The pixel dimensions themselves were suggested for that reason. The 16:9 rather than 4:3 aspect ratio was suggested so that you would not have black borders for your photos.

The Render button (or pressing the Enter key of the computer main keyboard) will do nothing for you if you do not have an orange line over the Timeline content. That orange line is the program telling you that you are not getting the best possible preview viewing your video in the Edit area monitor. That is a window of

opportunity to catch a problem sooner than later. If you see no colored line or a green line, that is indication that you are seeing the best possible preview in that edit area. You do not have to render the Timeline content in order to move forward in the project. Render is just a preview matter.

Should you do it? Yes and No...you do not have to...but...it is your opportunity to catch a problem sooner than later, and it is particularly useful in evaluating titles, effects, transitions, and non native formats. If you do not render there (and orange line present) and everything looks good in Edit, that does guarantee a trouble free end product. The preview would have probably given you more confidence. But as I said Yes and No.

Best wishes. All sounding very good. Great job.

ATR