14 Replies Latest reply on May 16, 2006 11:48 AM by Newsgroup_User

    halo template alignment problems

    Trouvera52 Level 1
      I could use some help in figuring out what to do to force the halo template to work correctly.

      patmelzer.brinkster.net/ contains files for a web I'm building using the halo template. My template includes several images that should appear just below the left nav portion (see Agenda--> Schedule which renders correctly) I've seen this before using Halo but don't know how to make it work w/o using a large table such as the schedule page. Also, a couple pages start too far down. If there isn't an image to align top I get mixed results (see Press-->Press Release 1). I tried adding align top to the Heading but that didn't fix the problem. What is more strange is that occasionally it does appear at the top!

      Thank you very very much!
      Trouvera

        • 1. Re: halo template alignment problems
          Level 7
          How comfortable are you with HTML, CSS, and javascript?

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          "Trouvera52" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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          >I could use some help in figuring out what to do to force the halo template
          >to
          > work correctly.
          >
          > patmelzer.brinkster.net/ contains files for a web I'm building using the
          > halo
          > template. My template includes several images that should appear just
          > below
          > the left nav portion (see Agenda--> Schedule which renders correctly)
          > I've
          > seen this before using Halo but don't know how to make it work w/o using a
          > large table such as the schedule page. Also, a couple pages start too far
          > down. If there isn't an image to align top I get mixed results (see
          > Press-->Press Release 1). I tried adding align top to the Heading but
          > that
          > didn't fix the problem. What is more strange is that occasionally it does
          > appear at the top!
          >
          > Thank you very very much!
          > Trouvera
          >
          >
          >


          • 2. Re: halo template alignment problems
            Trouvera52 Level 1
            Thank you for the links. I am comfortable with html and css, less so with javascript. The issue is really that I rarely do web work and I was hoping for a quick solution to a seemingly universal problem with a popular template, the answer of which might be useful for others in the future. So, I will look at the links but am still hoping for a quick solution from someone!

            Trouvera
            • 3. Re: halo template alignment problems
              Level 7
              See the problem is that most of the people who could help you have looked at
              HALO and decided they wouldn't touch it with Pablo's finger. It's quirky,
              and hinky, and the navigation is basically broken. But - it's up to you.

              To understand the navigation, go here -

              http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/dissecting_halo.html


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              "Trouvera52" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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              > Thank you for the links. I am comfortable with html and css, less so with
              > javascript. The issue is really that I rarely do web work and I was
              > hoping for
              > a quick solution to a seemingly universal problem with a popular template,
              > the
              > answer of which might be useful for others in the future. So, I will look
              > at
              > the links but am still hoping for a quick solution from someone!
              >
              > Trouvera
              >


              • 4. Re: halo template alignment problems
                Trouvera52 Level 1
                Not to beat a dead horse, but I have no problems with the navigation, although I did strip some of the extraneous sections. Global, subglobal and left panel navs. all work fine. The problem I am having is with alignment. If anyone can quickly identify what the problem is I would appreciate it. Basically from what I can tell unless there is a substantial amount of content in Section I the left panel content does not show up. Is there a way to force the left column information to show regardless of how much content there is in Section I?

                Thank you whoever can answer this question!
                Trouvera
                • 5. Re: halo template alignment problems
                  Trouvera52 Level 1
                  And the 2nd half of the alignment problem with Halo is why some pages don't render at the top of the page. I've seen it happen where sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. How can I force all content to show up at the top of the page all the time?

                  Thanks,
                  Trouvera
                  • 6. Re: halo template alignment problems
                    Level 7
                    Post a link to the page, please.

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                    "Trouvera52" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                    > Not to beat a dead horse, but I have no problems with the navigation,
                    > although
                    > I did strip some of the extraneous sections. Global, subglobal and left
                    > panel
                    > navs. all work fine. The problem I am having is with alignment. If anyone
                    > can
                    > quickly identify what the problem is I would appreciate it. Basically
                    > from
                    > what I can tell unless there is a substantial amount of content in Section
                    > I
                    > the left panel content does not show up. Is there a way to force the left
                    > column information to show regardless of how much content there is in
                    > Section I?
                    >
                    > Thank you whoever can answer this question!
                    > Trouvera
                    >


                    • 7. Re: halo template alignment problems
                      Trouvera52 Level 1
                      Sorry, I did post it earlier but here it is:

                      patmelzer.brinkster.net/

                      Thank you Murray!
                      • 8. Re: halo template alignment problems
                        Level 7
                        Scroll your page so that the top of the menu bar is right at the top of the
                        browser viewport. Now mouse over the global links in the menu. Do you see
                        the submenus?

                        I do not see the 'pages not rendering from the top' problem that you
                        describe - can you mention one page specifically that does this?

                        Nor do I see the problem you are describing with the "section 1" content. I
                        do see float problems on the first two panelist pages, but nothing other
                        than that.

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                        "Trouvera52" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                        > Sorry, I did post it earlier but here it is:
                        >
                        > patmelzer.brinkster.net/
                        >
                        > Thank you Murray!


                        • 9. Re: halo template alignment problems
                          Trouvera52 Level 1

                          An example where there is plenty of content (text not a table) in Section I and no left col. content is rendering:
                          http://patmelzer.brinkster.net/speakers_panel1.htm

                          An example where a table in Section I somehow forces the left col content to display.
                          http://patmelzer.brinkster.net/agenda.htm

                          And align top is selected for this, but it still starts a little down from the top.
                          http://patmelzer.brinkster.net/speakers_panel2.htm

                          The one above isn't a big deal to me, but I would like to understand why it happens. It also seems that the alignment problems are sporadic. I know that window size can trigger this, but it also happens on my widescreen from time to time with no "apparent" reason. Since everything has a reason......

                          OK, I do see the nav. problem you mentioned and must admit I had seen it previously, but since I was able to navigate to something and "get it to work" relatively easily I just ignored it. So, are there other templates you would recommend? I only do about one web a year so I like to start from something that should work.

                          ( http://tourofelegance.com is a web I did last year using Halo and it also has some positioning problems.

                          While I'm at it, is there a way (tag) that will force a separation of text to allow me to apply different styles? Many times it seems that an entire section of text "insists" on having the same formatting when that is not what I want. Could this be a cut/paste problem from Word or somewhere else? When I look at the code I never seem to find anything that would lump a whole section together.

                          Thank you so much Murray!
                          Trouvera

                          • 10. Re: halo template alignment problems
                            Level 7
                            You say you know HTML and CSS?

                            <p><font size="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
                            <br>
                            </font></font> </p>

                            What are you referring to as Section I?

                            > And align top is selected for this, but it still starts a little down from
                            > the
                            > top.
                            > http://patmelzer.brinkster.net/speakers_panel2.htm

                            A little down from the top? Sorry - I guess I'm just not understanding what
                            you are trying to describe here.

                            > Since everything has a reason......

                            Indeed. Like I said - I do not recommend these templates for use by someone
                            who is not very comfortable with HTML, Javascript, and CSS.

                            > While I'm at it, is there a way (tag) that will force a separation of text
                            > to
                            > allow me to apply different styles?

                            <p class="something">You mean <span class="whatever">like this?</span></p>

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                            "Trouvera52" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                            > An example where there is plenty of content (text not a table) in Section
                            > I
                            > and no left col. content is rendering:
                            > http://patmelzer.brinkster.net/speakers_panel1.htm
                            >
                            > An example where a table in Section I somehow forces the left col content
                            > to
                            > display.
                            > http://patmelzer.brinkster.net/agenda.htm
                            >
                            > And align top is selected for this, but it still starts a little down from
                            > the
                            > top.
                            > http://patmelzer.brinkster.net/speakers_panel2.htm
                            >
                            > The one above isn't a big deal to me, but I would like to understand why
                            > it
                            > happens. It also seems that the alignment problems are sporadic. I know
                            > that
                            > window size can trigger this, but it also happens on my widescreen from
                            > time to
                            > time with no "apparent" reason. Since everything has a reason......
                            >
                            > OK, I do see the nav. problem you mentioned and must admit I had seen it
                            > previously, but since I was able to navigate to something and "get it to
                            > work"
                            > relatively easily I just ignored it. So, are there other templates you
                            > would
                            > recommend? I only do about one web a year so I like to start from
                            > something
                            > that should work.
                            >
                            > ( http://tourofelegance.com is a web I did last year using Halo and it also
                            > has
                            > some positioning problems.
                            >
                            > While I'm at it, is there a way (tag) that will force a separation of text
                            > to
                            > allow me to apply different styles? Many times it seems that an entire
                            > section
                            > of text "insists" on having the same formatting when that is not what I
                            > want.
                            > Could this be a cut/paste problem from Word or somewhere else? When I
                            > look at
                            > the code I never seem to find anything that would lump a whole section
                            > together.
                            >
                            > Thank you so much Murray!
                            > Trouvera
                            >
                            >
                            >


                            • 11. Re: halo template alignment problems
                              Trouvera52 Level 1
                              OK, I don't have time to be ridiculed. Yes I understand CSS and yes there are times when I specify a quick alternative to save time -- these are quick and dirty webs that don't need to be rock-solid professional at the html level. As I said, I only do this about once a year, and was hoping to gain some spot education by "experts." Why someone would spend so much time trolling questions and supplying lengthy replies w/o substance is beyond me. But thank you anyway for your time. And next time I will research the quality of a template I'm thinking about using. Then again, maybe someday someone with expert status will post fixes for them.

                              Good night,
                              Trouvera
                              • 12. Re: halo template alignment problems
                                Level 7
                                Sorry you feel that way. I am trying to help you by suggesting that your
                                choice of the HALO templates for this site was not optimal given the code
                                you are putting into it.

                                > And next time I will research the quality of a
                                > template I'm thinking about using.

                                This is always a good idea, even for the quick and dirty sites.

                                > Then again, maybe someday someone with
                                > expert status will post fixes for them.

                                We are all hopeful that Adobe will fix them so that they are more suitable
                                for general audiences.

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                                "Trouvera52" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                                > OK, I don't have time to be ridiculed. Yes I understand CSS and yes there
                                > are
                                > times when I specify a quick alternative to save time -- these are quick
                                > and
                                > dirty webs that don't need to be rock-solid professional at the html
                                > level. As
                                > I said, I only do this about once a year, and was hoping to gain some spot
                                > education by "experts." Why someone would spend so much time trolling
                                > questions and supplying lengthy replies w/o substance is beyond me. But
                                > thank
                                > you anyway for your time. And next time I will research the quality of a
                                > template I'm thinking about using. Then again, maybe someday someone with
                                > expert status will post fixes for them.
                                >
                                > Good night,
                                > Trouvera
                                >


                                • 13. Re: halo template alignment problems
                                  Trouvera52 Level 1
                                  OK, thanks. Too little sleep I guess....since this web will have a life-span of 3 wks.and viewed by relatively few, I'm good. I'll try out some other templates in the future.

                                  • 14. Re: halo template alignment problems
                                    Level 7
                                    Good luck. If you need a good starting point for other templates, go here -

                                    http://www.dreamweaverresources.com

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                                    "Trouvera52" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                                    > OK, thanks. Too little sleep I guess....since this web will have a
                                    > life-span of 3 wks.and viewed by relatively few, I'm good. I'll try out
                                    > some other templates in the future.
                                    >
                                    >