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1. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 3:23 AM (in response to KyleBlasius)in Create Multi-Camera Source Sequence, with Synchronize Point, choose Audio
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2. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
KyleBlasius Dec 2, 2014 6:51 AM (in response to KyleBlasius)But it is my understanding that I can only create one sync point, correct? Or no? I have a bunch of little, two or three minute clips that span the entire length of the two hour show, and one full clip that is the exact length.
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3. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 6:55 AM (in response to KyleBlasius)If your audio waveforms are good, Premiere will sync them just fine, regardless of how long your clips are in relation to each other.
I can have a 2 hour audio and 7 camera files (chopped into smaller files as cameras do) and Premiere will sync them all or if I choose just the 2 hour audio and a small percentage of video files, still sync fine
one sync point? No, choose audio. Yes you can sync by point, but with your situation I say choose audio
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4. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 6:57 AM (in response to KyleBlasius)No Audio match? Not even a pair of files were matched? Premiere might not find one and tell you some did not match, but for you it said no match at all
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5. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 7:00 AM (in response to dummergold)I would think your short video clips have audio files that do not have very many peaks and valleys.
In that case I sync manualy by sight. You could create markers when syncing by sight and choose that when creating your multicamera source sequence, or just create your own and move clips accordingly
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6. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 7:06 AM (in response to dummergold)And pay attention to the time code on your cameras, that might help if you had them properly synchronized before the show
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7. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
KyleBlasius Dec 2, 2014 11:01 AM (in response to dummergold)Well, I was surprised It wouldn't sync by audio, because as far as I can judge, all the clips have decent audio. So, I went through the full-lenght clip, set a few markers and gave them all unique names, and then gave the corresponding smaller clips markers of their own, with matching titles. I then tried to create a multi-cam view, hoping that it would sync them all based on all the marker points I created - but I saw no option to do that. The "clip marker" option is greyed out. What am I doing wrong? I'm afraid Im pretty new to Premiere, so I'm sorry if the answer has already been given and I'm just not figuring it out.
Is it possible to just drag ALL the small clips out onto the timeline, line them all up above the full length track where they belong, and then convert that into a multi-cam sequence? I know that's probably quite a bit slower than an automatic sync based on marker points, but I can't seem to figure that out.
Thank you very much for your help, I appreciate it!
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8. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 11:20 AM (in response to KyleBlasius)Yes you can put your clips onto your required 3 or 4 different video track layers in the sequence panel and pull to match your marker points. Then when lined up, right click that sequence in the project panel and choose Create Sequence from Clip (or something like that as I am not infront of machine) then that will open a one layered video seqhence where you can choose your multicamera editing.
As for the synchronize by marker being greyed out. They usually are until you click the bullet beside the option.
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9. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 11:24 AM (in response to dummergold)Even put all your video tracks into a sequence and make the second sequence from it (before you have lined up) and use the multicamera monitor to help line up. Multicamera monitor can be found by clicking the wrench in the top right panel as long as you have the single layered second sequence
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10. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
KyleBlasius Dec 2, 2014 3:59 PM (in response to dummergold)So, I've tried dragging my full-length clip into V1, and all my smaller length clips into V2, directly above where they are in sync with V1. Upon right clicking the sequence in my project window and creating a second sequence, and then pulling the new sequence in and selecting Multi-cam view, it has actually just added the V2 directly onto of V1 whenever they lined up on top.
As for the synchronize by marker, it is 100% greyed out. I can't click on it at all. But I don't think this would help either way, because it would only sync to one point, right? I wouldn't be able to create a series of marks in my full length clip called "scene 1, scene 2, scene 3" etc, and then label each corresponding small clip the same, and have them sync up, right?
Thank you again for the help. I've tried what you've said several times just to make sure I wasn't missing anything - it doesn't appear that I am.
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11. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 4:29 PM (in response to KyleBlasius)ok on the Clip Marker being not selectable - i can see that now, so more with your second sequence you have made
the multicamera window shows V2 ontop of V1, is there another window to the right showing chosen video? Is the second sequence you have made just V1?
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12. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
KyleBlasius Dec 2, 2014 4:42 PM (in response to dummergold)When I layout my video, with my shorter clips in V2 and my full length one in V1 and then create a new sequence, drag that one into the timeline, and switch to multi-camera view, I do get the multi camera view, but on the right side it is just displaying the V1 (full length clip) and then whenever the V2 was lined up above, it has just cut that INTO V1, without me having chosen that or anything. On the left, where the different angles/cameras usually show up, I've got nothing, just black.
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13. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
shooternz Dec 2, 2014 4:46 PM (in response to KyleBlasius)In your case I would not bother with multicam edit mode.
I would lay down my master clip in V1.
Sight match each camera to the Master Vid on their own video layers. eg 4,5,6 ( leave layers below to checkerboard selects)
Use the eye ball to turn off cam layers them on and off at will and just drop selects down to Vid 2 and 3
ie .Use Vid layer 2/3 to compile your selected clips from above tracks
Key to this is that uppermost video track is Dominant so all you need to do is overlay those cam clips.
You end up turning uppermost tracks on and off a lot in this process. Shift click is your friend.
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14. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 2, 2014 4:53 PM (in response to KyleBlasius)A screen shot will help Shooternz always gives good advice so see if you can follow his method as my head is into manual stabilization with a clip.
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15. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 3, 2014 3:43 PM (in response to KyleBlasius)Create your markers in the Source Panel.
Then the Create Multi-Camera Source Sequence will recognize the markers and the Synchronize Point option of Clip Marker will be selectable
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16. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
KyleBlasius Dec 3, 2014 6:42 PM (in response to shooternz)I made a video showing what my problem has been. I hope it helps, please let me know if there is anything else I could show to help solve my problem.
Here's the video: Adobe Premiere Sync Issue - YouTube
Again, thanks for the help.
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17. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 3, 2014 6:58 PM (in response to KyleBlasius)Good. I will check it out and give you feedback here. If someone else answers you earlier even better.
I do not have compatible Internet connection here as I run off of dial-up connection. I will load my laptop and travel with it tomorrow and most lilely access a Wi-Fi. Then somewhere around 21 hours from now, return.
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18. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 3, 2014 9:32 PM (in response to KyleBlasius)a whole bunch of things to say, but I leave here soon
if all the clips were in the same folder and all the clips were selected for premiere to attempt the multicam, at least a few of them should have matched, that long file is the crucial one to have included in the sync. Maybe because the smaller clips were the distance away, the audio is foreign for the match
If you scatter all the smaller clips ontop of the larger one (in order) then create a second sequence to multicam from, you can get the multicam monitor to assist you with manual sync
If you do what shootern says and toggle the 'eye ball' on and off, that will also help you when you say the top clip covers up your view of the bottom clip
If you open up the audio waveforms so you can see peaks and valleys, that will also help you guide
If you obserb the timecode on your smaller clips, it will give you perspective will how far apart to place the clips
If you make a video of how you are doing the Premiere auto sync or how you are making second sequence or how you are attempting the multicam monitor will also give us visualization with help
sorry, have to go
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19. Re: Syncing a multi-cam view with no common sync points (multiple clips that start before/after others)
dummergold Dec 4, 2014 2:52 AM (in response to KyleBlasius)My other thought is with all your video clips in one folder
my visualization of your video is vague, but the size and quickness of viewing the files in your folder (bin) makes me want to point out the following
if you have a folder within a folder Premiere will only look in one folder. An example with that is if one of your camera files is a DNG sequence, those are individual frames inside a folder. For me to include a dng sequence into a Premiere Create a Multicamera sequence I have to Control shift on Windows and Command shift on a Mac, open the folder and select the first frame in the sequence. Then with my finger still on Control or Command, open any more folders (bins) and continue holding Control or Command as I select the remaining video or audio clips or opening any more 'frame sequence clips'. Hope that is understood.
If I were to have one folder (bin) with say 5 dng sequences, an audio and a dozen video clips, select them all and try to create a multicamera sequence, Premiere might just pick the bottom folder (bin) and say 'no match could be found.


