You shouldn't have to. You should find a printer that works in this century.
That said, if finding another printer is not an option for some reason, make sure there is transparency on EVERY page so you can use a custom flattener setting to convert the type to outlines during flattening (the only way to preserve things like underlines, paragraph rules and automatic bullets and numbers). See InDesignSecrets » Blog Archive » Converting Text to Outlines The Right Way and Possible bug: oulining text w/ flattener in CS5
I used the custom flattener and hopefully that will work. I'm waiting to hear from the printer. Unfortunately, I live in a 3rd World Country and the printers all seem to have the same issues.
Thanks for your help.
You should never convert font to outlines in InDesign, because:
- You loose automatic numbers and bullets,
- you loose paragraph rules,
- you loose underline and strikethroug
- you loose automatic follow up numbers
- you loose text frames stroke and color.
- Outlining is not possible with objects from the master without overriding, overiding will change the result in many cases, outlining on the master will either delete text or outline placeholders.
- Outlining will be a huge problem with threads as you cannot outline the whole thread in one single step.
Peters method will not work without problems as such a preset had to be created in CS4 or earlier, it will not work with CS5 or later.
The only working method is to educate your printer.
Ask him why he wants to outline the text? How does he open your PDF? The only program he is allowed to open it is Acrobat or Reader.
I believe the flattener method will still work, as long as the proper conditions are met as explained by Dov Isaacs in the second link.
That said, have you asked the printer to actually try using a PDF it embedded fonts? If he is outputting directly from Acrobat that should be OK, even on old RIPs.
I suspect, though, that he might be using something like Quark Xpress 4 to impose your PDF, and if that's the case you will have more trouble than just fonts.
Luckily, Willi, I didn't use any of those things and good luck educating the printers here! I will ask how he opened it, but everything is pretty archaic and I'm also going to ask what kind of printer they are using for the final product. When I go to the vehicle registration office, they still use dot matrix printers. LOL
Peter, the printer says that everything is fine now. I go today to look at a printer's proof with my fingers crossed. I really doubt that they are using Quark XPress - I'd be really surprised if they did! Again, I will ask if they used Acrobat to open the file. I have had this problem before here. I'm still getting used to how they work in Panama.
Look VERY carefully at the proof for dropped letters or wrong glyphs for things like apostrophes or quotes.
It was VERY common in the 90s to use Quark as an imposition tool.
Yes, I will look for those things. And, I used to use Quark myself and did exactly what you describe when I had my service bureau and couldn't get things to print any other way.
Very important to look for extended characters, in German we would look to ÄÖÜäöüß, and in Spanish I would look fpr ÑñÁÉÍÓÚáéíóú¡¿.