6 Replies Latest reply on Jan 30, 2015 5:33 AM by Modesto Vega

    Imported JPEGs using PV2003

    Modesto Vega Level 2

      I just imported 2 JPEGs into LR and the develop module said they were PV2003, I upgraded them to PV2012. I cannot recall having seem this before with JPEGs. Any thoughts on why this is happening are welcomed.


      P.S.: I didn't take the shots just trying to help somebody with a print profiling problem.

        • 1. Re: Imported JPEGs using PV2003
          dj_paige Level 9

          Most likely the JPGs had some previous editing from Lightroom or ACR embedded in the file, which was done with PV2003

          • 2. Re: Imported JPEGs using PV2003
            Modesto Vega Level 2

            Thanks, is there a way to check this by inspecting the file? PV2003 is LR1 and LR2 if I remember correctly,.

            • 3. Re: Imported JPEGs using PV2003
              dj_paige Level 9

              I'm not sure why you'd need to inspect the file, Lightroom is telling you that it was edited with PV2003. And it could have been edited with LR 3, 4 or 5 with PV set to PV2003.


              But if you really want to, the EXIF data in the file should indicate a Process Version (although I'm at work right now so I don't really know the details of what to look for)

              • 4. Re: Imported JPEGs using PV2003
                Modesto Vega Level 2

                Just curiosity and perhaps excessive caution because I am dealing with print profiling problem. I cannot see anything obvious on the exif -  see below. The camera was a Fujifilm X-E2.


                Aperture Value: 6

                Brightness Value: 4.36

                Color Space: sRGB

                Components Configuration: 1, 2, 3, 0

                Compressed Bits Per Pixel: 3.2

                Custom Rendered: Custom process

                Date Time Digitized: 23 Jan 2015 10:29:33

                Date Time Original: 23 Jan 2015 10:29:33

                Exif Version: 2.3

                Exposure Bias Value: -0.67

                Exposure Mode: Auto exposure

                Exposure Program: Aperture priority

                Exposure Time: 1/60

                File Source: DSC

                Flash: Off, did not fire

                FlashPix Version: 1.0

                FNumber: 8

                Focal Length: 44.4

                Focal Length In 35mm Film: 67

                Focal Plane Resolution Unit: centimeters

                Focal Plane X Resolution: 2,092

                Focal Plane Y Resolution: 2,092

                Photographic Sensitivity (ISO): 800

                Lens Make: FUJIFILM

                Lens Model: XF18-55mmF2.8-4 R LM OIS

                Lens Serial Number: 24A69205

                Lens Specification: 18, 55, 2.8, 4

                Light Source: unknown

                Max Aperture Value: 3

                Metering Mode: Pattern

                Pixel X Dimension: 4,896

                Pixel Y Dimension: 3,264

                Scene Capture Type: Standard

                Scene Type: A directly photographed image

                Sensing Method: One-chip color area sensor

                SensitivityType: Standard output sensitivity (SOS)

                Sharpness: Normal

                Shutter Speed Value: 6

                Subject Distance Range: unknown

                White Balance: Auto white balance

                AFInfo: 0.4750817, 0.4750306, 0.0498366, 0.04993873, f

                Focus Mode: 1

                Lens Info: 18, 55, 2.8, 4

                Lens Model: XF18-55mmF2.8-4 R LM OIS

                Lens Serial Number: 24A69205

                • 5. Re: Imported JPEGs using PV2003
                  ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  The information you’re wanting is in the Adobe-added crs:tags/attributes of the xmpmeta section.  EXIF reporting tools may ignore this, but you can see them in a text editor amidst all the other gibberish or using File / FileInfo in Photoshop.  I don’t know if these are visible in Bridge or not.


                  The two CRS items to look for are crs:Version and crs:ProcessVersion which communicate the values of the camera-raw engine version number used to manipulate the image and used to designate the PV.


                  A crs:Version without a corresponding crs:ProcessVersion would be PV2003 because the concept of a ProcessVersion tag hadn’t arisen when there weren’t multiple process versions.


                  A crs:ProcessVersion value of “5.0” means PV2003 but touched by a version of software new enough to understand the concept of ProcessVersion.


                  A crs:ProcessVersion value of “5.7” means PV2010


                  A crs:ProcessVersion value of “6.7” means PV2013

                  • 6. Re: Imported JPEGs using PV2003
                    Modesto Vega Level 2

                    Thanks a lot, crs:Version="5.0" and the there is no crd:ProcessVersion so  PV is 2003. So I making the educated guess that this file was edited a version prior to LR3, a Photoshop version prior to CS5 or even a version of Photoshop Elements prior to 9.


                    I am also assuming that the presence of crs tags indicates the file has been modified with Adobe software.


                    Hopefully, I got my assumptions right.