12 Replies Latest reply on Feb 16, 2007 9:29 AM by Newsgroup_User

    NavBar question

    P-C-Surgeonz Level 1
      Is there a way to create a NavBar in Fireworks similar to one on Microsoft's website or does it have to be created in Flash? Here is the link: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/default.mspx?pill=-1&WT.mc_id=?MSF6 01A
      It is sort of a double navbar. When you do a mouseover on the black navbar, (depending on what link you do the mouseover), it creates an additional navbar with links beneath it.
        • 1. Re: NavBar question
          Level 7
          Check TabBarMagic -

          http://www.projectseven.com/

          You would never want to use FW for something like this.

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          "P-C-Surgeonz" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
          news:er2jle$ij2$1@forums.macromedia.com...
          > Is there a way to create a NavBar in Fireworks similar to one on
          > Microsoft's
          > website or does it have to be created in Flash? Here is the link:
          > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/default.mspx?pill=-1&WT.m
          > c_id=?MSF601A
          > It is sort of a double navbar. When you do a mouseover on the black
          > navbar,
          > (depending on what link you do the mouseover), it creates an additional
          > navbar
          > with links beneath it.
          >


          • 2. Re: NavBar question
            P-C-Surgeonz Level 1
            There's got to be a way to build something similar without spending $90+ for a simple Navbar. If Fireworks isn't up to it, I'll find a way to build it in Flash.................
            • 3. Re: NavBar question
              Level 7
              On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:21:36 +0000 (UTC), "P-C-Surgeonz"
              <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

              >There's got to be a way to build something similar without spending $90+ for a simple Navbar. If Fireworks isn't up to it, I'll find a way to build it in Flash.................


              Ick.

              From Murray's standard response:


              Check the uberlink and MacFly tutorials at PVII -
              http://www.projectseven.com/

              and the Navbar tutorial/articles at Thierry's place
              http://tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/

              Or this one (more recent article):
              http://tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp

              Or to get it done fast, go here -

              http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/navigation/auto_hide/index.htm

              Note that while there are commercial products available at these
              sites, there are also FREE tutorials.

              Personally, I went for the commercial products. One menu system from
              PVII costs $90. That's less than 2 hours at my normal billing rate.
              The product pays for itself several times over on the very first site
              you use it.

              Win
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              • 4. Re: NavBar question
                Level 7
                P-C-Surgeonz wrote:
                > There's got to be a way to build something similar without spending $90+ for a simple Navbar. If Fireworks isn't up to it, I'll find a way to build it in Flash.................

                From the frying pan deep into the fire.

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                • 5. Re: NavBar question
                  P-C-Surgeonz Level 1
                  Spending $90 for a Navbar creater is fine if you build websites for a living, but not very practical for a person building a single website like me. Also regarding Win Day's website: http://www.wildrosewebsites.com, I like the page/shadow background effect and even started to build a site a while back after I saw the tutorial from ProjectSeven but aborted it after I saw what IE7 does to it when you hold the control key down and use the scroll wheel on the mouse. I did mention something about this a few weeks ago in the forum and had Linda comment that I am probably the only person to ever do this, yet I work in a very large office and learned this technique after watching numerous co-workers resizing webpages. I never heard back from anyone to find out if there was a fix for this or not?
                  • 6. Re: NavBar question
                    Level 7
                    P-C-Surgeonz wrote:
                    > Spending $90 for a Navbar creater is fine if you build websites for a living,
                    > but not very practical for a person building a single website like me. Also
                    > regarding Win Day's website: http://www.wildrosewebsites.com, I like the
                    > page/shadow background effect and even started to build a site a while back
                    > after I saw the tutorial from ProjectSeven but aborted it after I saw what IE7
                    > does to it when you hold the control key down and use the scroll wheel on the
                    > mouse. I did mention something about this a few weeks ago in the forum and had
                    > Linda comment that I am probably the only person to ever do this, yet I work in
                    > a very large office and learned this technique after watching numerous
                    > co-workers resizing webpages. I never heard back from anyone to find out if
                    > there was a fix for this or not?
                    >
                    >
                    Generally PVII uses conditional comments read by IE6 only to address
                    problems with that browser.

                    Has anyone pointed you to the PVII forums? They have 4: Dreamweaver,
                    Firefox, CSS, Issues, and webdev, and their support is second to none.


                    Have a look at forums.projectseven.com and see the various PVII tools
                    others have used to create all kinds of menus.

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                    Bonnie
                    • 7. Re: NavBar question
                      Level 1
                      As for Flash, it is not very user-friendly on the side of visually impaired users, where they use special device (or software) that reads textualized information off the site. That is to say, those special accommodation device/software can't understand Flash.

                      Additionally, so is with search engines, where they can't understand what's inside the content of Flash files either.

                      And, if you haven't used Flash application in the past, there is a deep learning curve.
                      • 8. Re: NavBar question
                        Level 7
                        P-C-Surgeonz wrote:

                        > I never heard back from anyone to find out if
                        > there was a fix for this or not?

                        I don't know if there's a fix for it. I'm not a coder. You might ask
                        about that in the Dreamweaver forum.

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                        • 9. Re: NavBar question
                          Level 7
                          On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:22:02 -0500, Linda Rathgeber **Adobe Community
                          Expert - Fireworks** <lightly@sc.rr.com> wrote:

                          >P-C-Surgeonz wrote:
                          >
                          >> I never heard back from anyone to find out if
                          >> there was a fix for this or not?
                          >
                          >I don't know if there's a fix for it. I'm not a coder. You might ask
                          >about that in the Dreamweaver forum.

                          Not the way the page is built, with the centered background image, no.

                          But it's such a minor change issue, only affecting whether you see the
                          drop shadow or not, that I didn't bother to try to find a work around.

                          Win
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                          • 10. Re: NavBar question
                            Level 7
                            Note that all of the links I gave you were to free stuff.

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                            "P-C-Surgeonz" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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                            > There's got to be a way to build something similar without spending $90+
                            > for a simple Navbar. If Fireworks isn't up to it, I'll find a way to build
                            > it in Flash.................


                            • 11. Re: NavBar question
                              P-C-Surgeonz Level 1
                              I would like to say that this forum has been very helpful and the feedback from all has been priceless. As for myself, not being a professional and/or expert web page designer, designing a website can sometimes be overwhelming. With all the ever changing web design techniques and browsers to work with (and not being able to work with web design as much as I would like to), it can be very time comsuming trying to figure out what works and looks the best using somewhat simple design techniques. I try to learn a little more everyday in my spare time regarding web design but I would be soooo lost without forums like this. Again, thanks for all the help!
                              • 12. Re: NavBar question
                                Level 7
                                Good luck,surg....

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                                "P-C-Surgeonz" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
                                news:er4o2j$544$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                >I would like to say that this forum has been very helpful and the feedback
                                >from
                                > all has been priceless. As for myself, not being a professional and/or
                                > expert
                                > web page designer, designing a website can sometimes be overwhelming. With
                                > all
                                > the ever changing web design techniques and browsers to work with (and not
                                > being able to work with web design as much as I would like to), it can be
                                > very
                                > time comsuming trying to figure out what works and looks the best using
                                > somewhat simple design techniques. I try to learn a little more everyday
                                > in my
                                > spare time regarding web design but I would be soooo lost without forums
                                > like
                                > this. Again, thanks for all the help!
                                >