14 Replies Latest reply on Mar 8, 2015 5:51 AM by JC Carv

    I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!

    JC Carv

      i am getting frustrated as i have downloaded dng update 8.7.1 and still dose not recognize the raw images and will not convert to dng.any one know what i can do to solve this besides update to lightroom 5 as i want to wait for 6

        • 1. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
          Keith_Reeder Level 4

          Lr 4.4 will never natively support D610 files - 4.4 was dead a long time before the D610 was even close to release.

           

          When you say "dng update" - do you mean the DNG Converter? Because the latest version does support the D610 files (support was available from version 8.3), and will allow you to convert the files to DNG, which 4.4 will be able to handle.

           

          If you mean ACR 8.7.1 - well that won't help, because Lightroom doesn't use it.

           

          So your choices are: upgrade to 5.x (nobody knows for sure when 6 will be released - could be a while yet); download and use the DNG Converter (if you haven't); or wait until 6 is released. Whenever that might be.

          • 2. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
            JC Carv Level 1

            thanks, for info. its seems that adobe is forcing everyone to upgrade weather they like it or not, don't think it is fair, but what can we do ? Lightroom 4 was and is a good program but not useful if I can't use it !

            • 3. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
              Joshua Cohen Level 3

              JC Carv wrote:

               

              its seems that adobe is forcing everyone to upgrade

               

              Nothing could be further from the truth. Adobe did not force you to buy a new camera. It is that choice of yours that is compelling an upgrade. In the future when considering a camera you need to evaluate the complete picture. A new camera often needs new memory cards, batteries, lenses and yes software or even a new computer.

              • 5. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                JC Carv Level 1

                sorry but I believe you are wrong , the only reason I can see for adobe to stop upgrades to 4.4 is so people will upgrade to 5, and they can get more money!! I am a senior and cannot afford to upgrade every year or two maybe you have the cash I don't , and as for upgrading my camera I saved a long time to do so , on a pension I might add, and this new system of no longer selling Photoshop as a separate program and selling monthly installments proves my point! Guess you guys are working for Adobe, Ah! well I am not working at all and trying to enjoy the rest of my life without spending more then I should have to , Oh and any more comments you have share them with your fans like Keith, I not interested, I thanks you for your answer but do not appreciate your comment!

                • 6. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                  Joshua Cohen Level 3

                  Believe me I understand trying to do photography on a limited budget. All I am saying is that when evaluating a purchase the complete cost needs to be considered. And yes, Adobe does everything to get more money. They are a for-profit corporation. Why would they do anything else?

                  • 7. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                    Keith_Reeder Level 4

                    Joshua Cohen wrote:

                     

                    They are a for-profit corporation. Why would they do anything else?

                    Heh!

                     

                    That's "The American Way", isn't it? The Free Market? Competition? Greed is good?

                     

                    Funny how people don't like it when it's their money that is being taken...

                     

                     

                     

                    It's hardly Adobe's fault that competition is relatively thin on the ground - and I write that as an active user of DxO Optics Pro 10, Capture One Pro 8 and Photo Ninja (and official beta tester for some of 'em).

                     

                    JC Carv wrote:

                     

                    the only reason I can see for adobe to stop upgrades to 4.4 is so people will upgrade to 5, and they can get more money!!

                     

                    Adobe isn't a charity.

                    • 8. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                      Joshua Cohen Level 3

                      Back to the OP's real problem: Have your tried to convert your RAW files to DNG? As stated by Keith in the first reply the DNG is a stand alone program (it is not an add on to Lightroom and it is not ACR) but the resulting DNG files will be usable by Lightroom 4.4.

                      • 9. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                        Keith_Reeder Level 4

                        Not only does Adobe provide the DNG Converter, but it does so completely free of charge for those who don't want to upgrade Lightroom.

                         

                        Bad Adobe...

                         

                         

                        • 10. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                          ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                          I wanted to answer the original issue… 

                           

                          You can use LR 4.4.1 with your D610 raw files if you convert them to DNGs with the DNG Converter 8.7.1.

                           

                          If you have downloaded and installed the DNG Converter 8.7.1 then there are two things that usually trip up new users, one being Nikon specific:

                           

                          1)      The DNG Converter works with FOLDERS so when you select the Source folder, you should single-click on the folder name to highlight it rather than double-click on the folder to view the contents.  Almost every other piece of software including many Adobe products, can select a folder by opening it but the DNG Converter needs the user to merely highlight the name. 

                           

                          2)      If you use older-than-your-camera Nikon software with a new camera, then the obsolete Nikon software can make changes to the metadata in the NEFs and make then unrecognizable to Adobe software.   This corruption can be avoided for brand-new image by avoiding Nikon software for downloading and viewing or by uninstalling all the older Nikon software that came with your previous camera(s) and install only the Nikon software that came with your new camera.  The corruption to existing NEFs that have been touched by Nikon software can be reversed using a utility from the following website and then you should be able to convert them to DNGs and import them in LR:  http://owl.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/fix_corrupted_nef.html

                          • 11. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                            JC Carv Level 1

                            from what i have seen on this subject you would have to be a mind reader or everyone who upgrades there camera is bind or blind sided, there was no evidence that new camera's including canon models would not work with lightroom 4.4 until people tried working with it , This is not the only form that states this problem there are many many more having the same problem and yes I have downloaded the converter but I would rather work inside one program, and the remark about poor Adobe is in bad taste (sarcasm) not needed, I came to this blog in search of help but it seems the answer can not be found here either, and as was stated will never be found , and its nice to see the American way is no Different then the Canadian way, (get ahead at the cost of others don't help them just squeeze them dry give them a crumb while taken the loaf for itself!)   Take care! nice talking with ya! JC. 

                             

                             

                             

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                            • 12. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                              ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                              In a market economy people get paid for their work via companies who charge for their products.  Adobe employs people who are working all the time, and therefore chooses to require pay-for upgrades periodically to generate more revenue.  The reason they switched to the cloud was to even out their revenue stream even more.  You can pay US$10/month and get the current versions of LR and PS as long as you keep paying.

                               

                              Just because many people are upset when they realize they'll have to spend more money for software because they got a new camera doesn't make the producer of the software bad or mean that the feelings are justified and it's someone else's fault.

                               

                              What should happen differently: that society be communist and all software be produced by and doled out from the government so political decisions govern what is available and who gets it, or a more socialist society where retired workers get more things for free or at reduced cost due to they're not working anymore, or what is your specific idea for what should be changed?

                               

                              As far as your crumbs and loaf analogy, Adobe is a publically-traded, for-profit company.  If people are getting rich from gouging seniors then you should have purchased stock a long time ago and get a piece of those supposedly extraordinary profits as dividends for yourself and you can vote in the shareholder meetings to give more software to whatever groups you deem more worthy.  And if you're across a border and things are much more expensive due to government policies or taxes and if you're a citizen of that society and organize and get people to vote differently and change the system.

                               

                              If you're coming here for solutions about how work with new camera raws in older software keep your question to that.  If you're wanting people to agree that you're justified in being upset by complaining that Adobe is bad then you've probably come to the wrong place.

                              • 13. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                                Keith_Reeder Level 4

                                "Senior" ("pensioner", in English?) or not, you've just bought a D610: seems a bit of a thin argument to complain about Adobe and its pricing arrangements when you've just popped for a new - and certainly not inexpensive - camera.

                                 

                                Maybe Nikon should charge less, then the Lightroom price wouldn't be so offensive?

                                 

                                Upgrading software is an often unavoidable side-effect of buying a new camera, and budgets should be planned accordingly.

                                • 14. Re: I just bought a Nikon D610  light room 4.4 will not open images from my camera help!
                                  JC Carv Level 1

                                  Go jump in the lake I do not have time for your argument is that enough english for you! I came to get answers not your crap!

                                   

                                   

                                   

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