Version of ID? OS?
Are the pages blank, or is there other content still there? Were the missing objects anchored to the text, or free-floating?
Its ID CC and OS X 10.9.4
Yes there are still some elements left on the page. I've never used anchors.
above restored from time machine - how it should look!
This happens a lot - my collegues have the problem sometimes. on different jobs. different computers. that we don't share!
I'm thinking this might be a bug we've seen.
Do the objects still appear in the layers panel? What happens if you try to select one of them there Assuming it appears) by clicking the spot to the right of the object name?
Have you installed the latest updates for ID?
What image type are you using?
Unfortuatlely Ive replaced that full spread now! But all the objects that disappeared where on the default layer!
I always do the updates!
Answer to Willi, The objects that disappear are a mixture of indesign elements (boxes, lines). Photoshop Tiffs and jpgs. Illustrator files.
I'm not concerned so much with what layer the objects live on, but whether they still show in the panel and are selectable when they disappear. The bug I mentioned causes ID to lose track of geometric bounds for some objects, and when you try to select them you might see an error message about leaving the pasteboard, or you won't see the expected bounding box, but the dimensions listed for the object in the Control panel will shift to scientific notation because it object is either astronomically large or astronomically small now.
So that would be worth checking if it happens again. The only "fix I know is to do waht you dis and repalce the page, or the objects if you feel lucky. I'd export to IDML as well and open that and resave with a new name before continuing to edit.
Thanks for that! I have a feeling you are right!
The next time it happens - I will let you know through this discussion. (if that is possible!).
This must happen a lot - if this has happened to 3 people in my office alone.
The same thing happened to me last year on a different job - I exported to IDML - it did fix it for a short time - but the same thing happened again!
I have found another indesign file with the same problem!!!!
Its a text box this time!
Luckily its just a spread with a couple of words saying what needs to go on the spread when I come to design it.
See below how it should look
and how it looks now - with the 2 text boxes disappeared
and here's the layers panel - a node appears in the centre of the spread when I click the item in the layers panel
Looks like the bug. Are the dimensions in scientific notation?
Where can I find the dimensions?
with the object selected, look at the width and height fields in the control panel.
the dimensions are 0 x 0 and the scale is 0%. That seems normal?
I've more things missing today!!!
First, back up EVERYTHING.
Then I would uninstall ID, and tell the uninstaller to remove the prefs as well, and probably run the cleaner tool as well (CS Cleaner Tool for installation problems | CCM, CS6, CS5.5, CS5, CS4, CS3), then reinstall.
For any file that is showing the corruption, I would export the file to IDML, open that, and move the content from the good pages to a new document.
Before I got your message
I was fixing one page - and there would be something new missing from the next. 7 - 8 times this has happened this morning so far.
I had already uninstalled and replaced indesign CC to indesign CC 2014, and replace and saved IDML files.
I think that file is so damaged at this point that you need to abandon it. Moving pages to a new file might work, but my instinct is it would be better to copy/paste in place to a new file page by page, though I would probably, in your shows, seriously consider rebuilding from scratch. If you don't have the text available any other way, you should be able to export each story you need to InDesign Tagged Text and import that into a new file.
I wish I could start again but these are 2 brochures with the same problems in 6 languages that Ive been working on since Christmas with deadlines every day till July.
I want to cry!!!
Really apprcieate all your help with this!
Well, maybe the best idea would be to downgrade, then. You can install CS6 as part of the subscription package and you should be able to open IDML saved from either CC or CC2014 in CS6 (do the export, don't depend on the new open direct facility in CS6 8.1). As far as I know that bug has not been present in CS6, and with any luck it won't show up.
CS6 is an extra £47 a month on top.
What do think to
Stellar Phoenix InDesign Repair?
CS6 is included at no cost. Open the CC Desktop Application, click on the Apps tab, scroll down to Other Applications and set the filet to Previous Version.
I have no experience with the Stellar Phoenix product, but I would say that your document is full of whatever triggers that bug, so you might not really be "fixing" anything by using it.
I don't have anything that says 'Other Applications'
but I do have the full suite
I found it eventially! Thanks again!
In the meantime.
A collage has been on to indesign support - They told me work on my mac from the system admin area, to see if the errors still occured. So I opened an earlier damaged file and continued to work in that file. all seemed OK in that short test. Unfortunately we were unable to contact that support again. But the new indesign support suggested I repair disk permission in safe mode. So that's where I am at the moment.
HI mrreece, how did you get on with this, I have exactly the same problem. Some elements completely disappear but if I select everything with the direct selection tool and move the contents of the page slightly some of the elements reappear.
The other issue I am experiencing is not being able to view pages as spreads, indesign freezes and then crashes.
I am unable to add any new pages to the document either.
Does this sound like the same bug?
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you!
I ran 'disk utillites' in 'safe boot' mode.
Then to be on the safe side copied all the good pages into a new document (took a while) but so far - so good - touch wood!!!!
Many thanks for the reply, I will give that a try!
The problem is back. I'm near completion of my brochure. and all the default layer is missing from page 34.
Found this thread today. Objects disparaging from spreads; photos and objects. I make a habit of saving every 15 minutes so I haven't lost anything, but it's a bit of a pain. Not sure if it's related, but on a different project I got an error saying something like "database error".
I just encountered the same issue in InDesign CC 2015 / Windows 7 : some objects (pictures, texts...) disapeared from my saved InDesign file on the next opening.
I think the cause was that I removed a polygon in a layer that was at very (very) bottom of the page (I am working on a file started by another colleague and have to do with the existent !). I think that polygon was causing the error message saying that I cannot move the objects in the layer because it would bring some of them 'out of the pasteboard'.
All the "missing" objects were still in the Layer Panel, and I could select them (the selection frame was there).
Then I just moved the selected "missing" object one pixel down with the arrow key and everything came back. After saving and opening the file again, every object was still ther!
However, I couldn't check for strange 'scientific notation' before doing this workaround, sorry...
I don't know if that could solve this bug everytime, but I hope this helps!