AVI is a wrapper, what is inside YOUR wrapper - Exactly what is INSIDE the video you are editing?
Codec & Format information, with 2 links inside for you to read http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1270588
Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below... A screen shot works well to SHOW people what you are doing
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1070933 for screen shot instructions
Free programs to get file information for PC/Mac http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download
What computer operating system is involved?
Please confirm your inquiry. Are you asking about export of a file with an .avi file extension from Premiere 6.5 or project files from Premiere 6.5?
Back in 2011 I was involved in the following thread at another forum and wonder if it relates to what you seek.
Have you tried to import any of these .avi files into Premiere Elements 9.0/9.0.1 on your computer operating system and met with import failures?
We will be watching for your reply to John T. Smith questions about the properties of the .avi files.
Thank you for your response. I am attempting to make use of a number of video clips that were originally captured back in 2001 on a Windows2000 OS computer using Adobe Premier 6.5 with Matrox RT2500. The computer has since burned out and all I am left with are the external hard drives with hundreds of AVI files (raw unedited but captured footage). From my notes back in 2001 it appears they were captured with the MPEG 2 I Frame format.
Since I no longer have that computer, I need to occasionally access some of those old AVI files. I have attempted to load some of the AVI files into my Premier Elements 9 library (for editing on the timeline), however, when I try to load them, PE9 gives me the following error message: "This type of file is not supported, or the required Codec is not installed."
What I would like to do is install the right Codec. Have I provided enough information to determine what the right Codec would be? Since I don't have the old Premier 6.5 (Matrox 2500) installed, how would I do that?
Let us try to use the free codec utility named GSpot to get the video and audio codec information for the files.
If GSpot can read those files, we should be able to get the following plus
Video Name Codec and Status
Audio Name Status
Thank you for your response. Will try the GSpot Codec Info Appliance, thank you so much.
If I can locate the Matrox RT2500 install discs, will that be helpful? I know I saved everything, just a matter of locating them. Obviously, I am not a technical person, just an editor. I will try the GSpot Codec Info App, now.
The Premiere Elements 9 is installed in my Windows 7, 64 bits computer.
I Installed the Gspot...and listed the Path to the files...and it confirms that the Codec MMES, Matrox MPEG-2 I-frame, IS Installed. However, when I try to drag the file into Premiere Elements 9, it still gives me the error message saying the file is not supported or the Codec is not installed. I have closed and opened the Premiere program times, but have not re-booted...but still get that error message.
Thank you for your response.
I have since explored and determined that I the AVI files were digitized and saved in the MPEG 2 I Frame format. As you are aware, AVI is only the wrapper, I have been trying to find out what is inside the wrapper. The old tech support people say it is MPEG 2 I Frame, but I don't even know if that is enough information.
Thanks for the follow up and the great work in tracking down what seems to be the files video compression -
Codec MMES, Matrox MPEG-2 I-frame. The "is installed" part is not necessarily a stopper since there have been
instances were a codec was listed as installed but was just not available to Premiere Elements for reasons often
unknown....case in point MotionJPEG video codec. One of the solutions to the latter is to download and install a
commercially available MotionJPEG video codec if it is not supplied with a utility that came with the camera that
recorded the video.
If I can locate the Matrox RT2500 install discs, will that be helpful?
In the past, when you used Premiere 6.5, did that supply codecs for the projects? If so, trying to install a Matrox
MPEG-2 I frame component from that might be worthwhile. Adding 3rd party codecs to a system can have its pros and cons.
Can you backup the system to protect from the cons if any? I tried to follow some online Matrox RT2500 links to find answers,
and they dried up in no longer existing links.
Yes, I have just now located the original matrox RT2500 disc that came with the original program...I have opened it to the utility folder and located the Codec, I will do a back up and install it now...will have some news back in a couple of minutes. thank you so much for all your help.
whsprague, thank you for the link for the free-codecs from matrox...I downloaded...still no effect...same error message: "Codec is not install or format is not supported"
Sorry. Seemed like it was worth a try.
Thank you for your help. It appears Adobe was down for the past few days, at least I couldn't get on.
I have loaded the Matrox Codec that came with my original system and capture card, however, I still get the error message "codec is not installed or format is not supported." How can I be sure the Codec is being installed in the right folder in my computer?
A.T. Romano, thank you for your help. Suddenly, the Adobe Forum went off-line for some "reconstruction", hopefully it is back now. thank you for all your help. You had mentioned that sometimes even if the Codec is installed it may not be in the correct place? How do I go about making sure it gets into the right folder so that Premiere Elements can find and use it? thank you
My 1st video editing computer was pre-built and included a Pinnacle DV500 card, and the software to "link" the card to Premiere 6/6.5
At that time, the Pinnacle codec would ONLY work if the card was installed, so even installing the Pinnacle software on another computer would not allow Premiere to edit the video
I don't know Matrox, but it SEEMS that the files you have require both the codec and the card, since the codec has "hooks" into the hardware, as was the case with my Pinnacle card
I have no idea how, but you may need to find software to convert your proprietary codec files into a modern codec that is not tied to hardware
Thank you for your input. I called the old Tech Support number and actually reach the very tech whom I had frequently chatted with back in 2001 and he even remembered me. (why, you may wonder, would the same Tech Support guy still be there? Turns out he has part ownership in the company. Anyway, he gave me that link to download the Matrox Codec. He said that is all that would be needed. I installed the new codec, and it still didn't work for Premiere Elements 9. When I try to import those AVI files in my Windows 7 computer, it says "format is not support or codec is not installed."
Interestingly, if I use the Premiere Elements 9 program in my Windows 9 laptop, it WILL go thru the motions of accepting the video, BUT, all it does is places a Placeholder in place of the file...In other words, it looks like the AVI file is transferred, but the placeholder is blank, whereas the other files that are successfully downloaded actually as the image of the first frame of video in the Placeholder. If you click on the Placeholder or place it in the timeline, it will occupy space, but there is no video associated with it.
The video WILL playback on my Windows 7 computer through GOM Player 2.2, but not through the latest versions of Real Player or Windows Media Player.
.....The video WILL playback on my Windows 7 computer through GOM Player 2.2, but not through the latest versions of Real Player or Windows Media Player.
This is "off the wall", but if you can get it to play on your computer, have you considered "screen recording" software like Camtasia, Jing, Screencast-O-Matic, or others? I think you said you only need this for occasional short clips. If so, it might work.
Several minutes ago, I replied to your post 15. But, I do not see it posted or any traces of it anywhere else. But, what I wrote was this.
When I used Motion JPEG codec as an example of a codec that might be installed but not recognized by Premiere Elements, that was
not meant to imply that the installed Motion JPEG codec was in the wrong place...only that Premiere Elements was not recognizing the codec
that it sought.
High probability that Premiere Elements was not recognizing the installed Motion JPEG codec because it was looking for the source
video's Motion JPEG codec which might be a proprietary Motion JPEG codec.
I now see that you have made contact with Adobe tech with direct knowledge of the issue. Hoping that you can work out the details on
that after the initial set back.
I think that I am recalling an encounter with Premiere 6.5 avi a while back (as download tutorial file). I am going to see if I can find
what I think that I am recalling and determine if it has any relevance to your situation.
Thank you so much for your time in dealing with this issue. I notice that Adobe Forums have either crashed or were shut down for at least two days, and I no longer can follow the entire thread, parts seem to be missing.
I did talk with the original Tech Support guy, but, he gave me an obsolete Matrox download site. His company built the computers that housed the Premier programs and the Matrox Capture Card that sits in the PCI slot. He told me, beyond that, I should contact Premiere.
I was able to locate the original CD with the Matrox Utility and Codec on it, and installed it...still Elements 9 doesn't recognize it, although it DOES create a Placeholder with the name of the video on it, but no content. Also, those AVI files can be played back through Windows Media Player, just not Elements 9.
Your help is appreciated.
thanks for your suggestion on Camtasia. Yes, I have tried that, but still can't get Premiere Elements 9 to recognize the video. Is it possible that I DO have the correct Matrox Codecs installed, but Premiere does not see them? Should I re-install the Matrox Codecs into a specific file? I talked to my original vendor, and I do have the original Matrox Codec, and I have installed it, problem is Premiere Elements 9 still gives the error message, "File not supported, need codec...."
At the present time, you appear to be able to play back your old video with a computer player. If you are able to do a screen capture of
that playback, I would ask the following.
What export settings are you using for the export from the Camtasia screen capturing program?
Thank you for your response. When I said I had tried Camtasia, I meant that I had tried to import the files into Camtasia. However, Camtasia, like Premier Elements, will NOT allow me to import these older Matrox AVI files into their editing programs. These older Matrox AVI files will playback fine in a program I downloaded called "GomPlayer", Today I discovered that GomPlayer allows me to view the properties of the clip, and they are pasted below. Hopefully, with this newer info, it will help me with my capture sistuation.
Thanks again for your help.
Complete name : C:\Users\User\Desktop\Atlanta 2 endorsements so pd.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 214 MiB
Duration : 1mn 16s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 23.4 Mbps
Writing application : Matrox MQSink Filter For MPEG. Format: 4. Build: 184.108.40.2069
ID : 0
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : 4:2:2@Main
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, picture structure : Frame
Codec ID : MMES
Codec ID/Info : I-frame
Codec ID/Hint : Matrox
Duration : 1mn 16s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 23.3 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.254
Stream size : 214 MiB (100%)
Thanks for the clarification.
What I thought you were doing was playback of the file in the computer player that supported your file and, during the playback of the file, you were using
Camtasia to do a screen capture of that playback. That was followed by save of the capture to a file format that was compatible with Premiere Elements.
Have you seen
This is not going to help with the import, but, after you install your codec and go to Publish+Share/Computer/AVI, do you find your codec listed in the Advanced Button/Video Tab area under available codecs for the AVI category?
Thank you for your response. Thank you for the link, as it turned out I had already downloaded and installed those codecs and more. My Premiere Elements seems to be ignoring those codecs.. When I Publish/share as an AVI those codecs are not listed there either.