1 person found this helpful
By default, LR's Import from Aperture plugin will make copies of both types of files and will put them in new date-based folders, and your Aperture files will stay exactly where they are. Obviously this can mean lots of disc space is needed.
However, LR's Import from Aperture plugin has an Options button with a setting to leave the Aperture photos where they are. In my view, this is usually the best choice. So in your case, choosing this means all the "referenced" photos on the Raid will stay where they are now.
But the complication is that you also have photos "managed" or in an Aperture vault. LR needs them in regular folders, so the plugin will always make copies of these managed photos in new date-based folders. If you don't want this, before running Import from Lightroom's plugin you need to go into Aperture and run the Reorganise Masters/Originals command and put these managed photos into regular folders in the folder structure you prefer.
So first Relocate Masters in Aperture, moving everything into regular folders, then run the plugin and choose the option to leave photos in their existing locations.
I've written a bit more about it here where there are some screenshots you may find useful.
Dear John ,
Apologies, as I am attempting to get to the bottom of this migration for my wife ( who is away on assignment ) and I am not 100% certain on the technical aspects of Aperture, so excuse my ignorance.
She has about 6TB worth of RAW Master images ( several 100 thousand ) which, as explained, are on an external RAID drive. She uses a separate Drive as a Vault . Can I assume that this Vault contains all of her edits, file structures , Metadata, etc ?
So, step by step........She can Import into Lightroom her Referenced Masters from her RAID and still keep them there ? Is that correct ?
The Managed Files that are backed up by her Vault , are in the pictures folder of her MacPro, but not in a structure that looks like her Aperture library ? This means Lightroom will just organize all the Managed files, simply by the date in the Metadata ? Am I correct ( Sorry for being so tech illiterate ).
How do I ensure she imports into Lighgtroom in exactly the same format as she runs her workflow in Aperture ? ( Projects, that are organized by year and shoot location and Albums within those projects with sub-locations, or species , etc ). What exactly do I need to do in Aperture please to organize Managed Files to create a mirror structure of Aperture on my internal Hard Drive ?
There are a couple of points I am unsure about in regard to Lightroom. Does it work in the same way as Aperture ? Meaning, can she still keep Master Files on an external RAID and Lightroom will reference them ? If the answer is yes, how do you back up your Managed ( edited ) work in Lightroom ? ( Can you still use an external Drive as a Vault ? ) . Will the vault she uses now be able to continue to back up Managed Files post migration ?
Dear John ,
Perhaps the thing that is most confusing for me is the reorganise Originals process.......I have the "originals" on the RAID........Those are not the ones I am worried about, as it seems I can leave them there as the referenced images the same as I have them in Aperture. It is the Managed Files inside Aperture/Vault that I don't understand how to reorganize. Did you say there is a reorganize originals command. If so, in this case, does originals mean the post edited files, rather than the RAW unedited Originals ? Will this reorganize the files on the Computer Hard drive or the Vault, or both ?
On the computer hard drive and into regular Finder folders. The command is under the File menu and gives you options for the folder structure - eg folders that mirror the project structure that's in Aperture.
In both LR and Aperture all your work is stored in the catalogue / library which are *.lrcat / *.aplibrary files. These are important to backup. With Lightroom, the photos are stored in regular folders and again you are responsible for backing them up with whatever tool you choose.
There is still one thing I do not understand.....You keep saying use the Reorganize command, but there isn't one ( not that I can find ). I don't want to Relocate Masters, as they are on the RAID which is where I want to keep them for Lightroom to use.
It is the file structure of the Managed files that has me confused.
I want it to match the exact filers structure of the Masters I have.
How do you ensure that when you import into Lightroom, the Managed files ( that are backed up in my Vault ) are organised in the basically the same structure as in Aperture please ?
Sorry, I should have said Relocate, not Reorganise.
Masters that are Managed can only be imported into LR by (a) LR copying them into date-based folders or (b) by you relocating them in Aperture and making them referenced. The second method avoids creating copies of your masters, and they can still be on the Raid, just in regular Finder folders. Relocate Masters allows you to create a referenced folder structure that matches how the projects etc appear in Aperture's UI.
After changing any managed files to referenced in Aperture, you then have to ensure that you choose the correct option in LR's import tool, as described above.
All my Master files ( about 6TB worth ) are referenced, so I am not worried about them. They are in a file structure that largely resembles how they are organized in Aperture ( Largely ). I have them in Folders by Project, but do not break them down further. However, in Aperture, they are organised by Sub Subject. For example, the Project maybe called 2014 Namibia , but I have Albums within that that may say Etosha, Skeleton Coast ....etc . Do I need to replicate exactly that structure on the RAID if I want the Masters to transfer it Lightoom how I have them in Aperture ?
It is all the images that have adjustments that are managed in the Aperture library and are backed up in a Vault that I am asking about mainly though. When you move them to Lightroom, how do you ensure they arrive in the same folder structure as in Aperture ?
Sorry to keep being this particular dead horse !!
My only Managed files are ones that have had adjustments added .
You should use Relocate Masters to get the managed files into regular Finder folders - Aperture lets you structure the folders to match what's in Aperture. Then choose the correct option in LR's import tool.
Albums will arrive in LR as collections, so you don't need to replicate that structure. In any case, a photo can be in more than one album, so replicating the structure would result in duplicate files.
oh !! so relocate Masters will move my images that have Aperture adjustments added to them John that are currently on my internal Hard Drive and Vault ? I thought Masters were Only the original images , that came straight out of the camera ? Am I incorrect ?
The term in Aperture is a bit confusing. Now in Aperture 3.6 it is called "Relocate Originals" but it has changed a couple of times - it was "Masters" before. It might be easier to understand it as "Relocate Files".
In some of my projects, When I have tried to Relocate the "file" as you state above, the Aperture Adjusted Version does not show up in the RAID, merely the original......However, when I create a Smart Album from all 160,000 images my wife has in Aperture and ask to see Managed Files, there are none . So where are the edited images and how are they stored on the RAID please ?
By the way..It shows them as separate and clearly defined Versions when I have used an External Editor such as PS6 or Nik Software, just not Aperture adjustments
One of the big downfalls of Aperture is that it doesn't show you where your photos are. They always promoted this as a feature (even as a "new paradigm") but it's not so wonderful when you need to do something Apple never envisaged. So here it really sounds as if it has led to you not knowing where your files are, or which files correspond to which items in the Aperture UI. I suggest you need to nail this down for yourself - right clicking images in Aperture and choosing Show in Finder until you're sure where everything is.
Alternatively, make sure you've got lots of disc space available, stop asking questions, and just see what happens when you run LR's Import plugin with the options I suggested. This won't do any damage to Aperture.