What font type? Maybe a problem with T1 (postscript fonts) in modern OS.
Well I'm not sure because when I go to Library - Fonts, I can not see any font called Helvetica Neue. I can see some called:
Where else would the font be?
Is the font the standard Mac .dfont? It will not be usable for export. You will have to purchase an OTF version.
The files the OP listed are for a T1 font....
You should buy licenses to OTF fonts, T1 fonts are not supported in no modern OS, not with Windows, nor with Mac.
But in the meantime you can copy those fonts into InDesign's font folder aside the program file to use it in InDesign, which is supporting T1 fonts at the moment. But be aware this font type is old and outdated and you should replace it with more modern font technology soon.
Thanks for your help! But the fonts are already in the Indesign CS4 -> Fonts folder. So I don't understand what to do now?
I think these font were with the computer when I bought it. Shouldn't they be the updated version then?
I could buy the whole font family but that's really expensive!
What settings are you using to make the PDF?
I just use the default settings. High quality pdf's.
Should I change something?
And how did you install CS4 on Yosemite? New install? Migration? CS4 is not supported on that OS, as far as I know, so there can be problems, especially if boththe OS and the application are not clean installs.
Out of curiosity, do other fonts work in PDF?
No, fonts are program files and you have to pay for fonts as you would have to pay for new programs. Font upgrades don't exist.
Another problem will be with CS4, CS4 was never designed to be used with OS X 10.10. It might run occasionally but it will also produce a lot of errors. With Yosemite you will have to buy new font and you will have to upgrade your programs. I would recommend to subscribe to CC.
I just upgraded my OS to Yosemite.
Yes some fonts seems to work fine and other not. Even the same font but with bullet points is working!
Ok I see. I did not know the fonts would not work on new versions.
So if I bought CC, would I then have access to Helvetica Neue and all other main fonts? I guess there is still a limit or?
I can pay for new fonts but if I buy the Helvetica font it can easely cost 2000 dollars and that's a lot for me for just one font family. I would also have to buy many others...
Fonts are not part of the program, they are installed at system level. T1 fonts should be usable (and are) when used in the programs font folder aside the programs like InDesign and most other Adobe products. But I would recommend to change to OTF Pro fonts anyway as these fonts are more compatible and allow cross working with all OS.
CC comes with a bunch of fonts available via Type Kit, but Helvetica Neue is not part of it, as far as I know it comes from Linotype. http://www.linotype.com/1266/NeueHelvetica-family.html
I'm a Windows user, so I couldn't tell you if T1 fonts are no longer supported on Mac OS, but it seems unlikely to me that it would be the case. I have a feeling that what you might be seeing is a conflict between the system .dfont version and your T1 version, but I've forgotten if it is OK to remove the .dfont.
Mac OS has a Helvetica but no Helvetica New or Neue.
Willi Adelberger wrote:
Mac OS has a Helvetica but no Helvetica New or Neue.
Pretty sure it does, and since Yosemite, it's the main GUI font.
Please turn off the autoquote on your phone...
Helevetica Neue was a .dfont in Leopard, for sure. Maybe Apple decided not to install it any longer because of all the problems? Larry seems to think it's still there, too.
If there is no .dfont version of Heletica Neue in the system fonts folder, it would be worth installing the T1 version there and see if it works an any other applications.
So should I copy the HelveticaNeue.dfont to Library -> Fonts then? I have the font file like the image above shows.
It's a necessary system font, so it should already by in System/Library/Fonts, and shouldn't be moved from there. Having a copy or conflicting version in ID's fonts folder could be causing the problem.
I was wrong, Mac OS X has both, Helvetica and Helvetica Neue.
Both can embed subsets into PDFs.
They are also Linotype (MT) fonts, as the License shows:
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I'm looking for a solution as well. I have helvetica neue on my system but my old sc4 indesign can't see it. I have helvetica neue std? and helvetica normal but one of these when exported results in squares on pdf. How do i get cs4 to use the system helvetica. should i delete the old std ones?