What happens if you apply pan & zoom first and then add Time Remapping?
Have you tried manually creating a pan & zoom by keyframing the Motion effects on the Applied Effects panel.
I will try removing the time remapping and let you know.
Currently i'm having hard time deleting the time zones as I receive a message "We detect that the clip has been trimmed in an already created timezone. Some parts of this clip may be disabled".
Whats that all about?
How do I manually create pan & zoom using keyframes ?
Any tutorial for that ?
I suspect that you may be missing the core issue, how to use the Pan and Zoom Tool for video. Not the same as for still. I picked up on that thought when I saw that you wrote
The Pan & Zoom tool doesnt show the clip that I used the time remapping on.
If I am wrong about that, please read no further.
Very roughly, for video, the Pan and Zoom workspace shows first frame of video and last frame of video. You move the Timeline Indicator along and, in applying pan and zoom effects, create new frames between the first and last frame....details in link below.
Are you factoring in that there is a difference in how the Pan and Zoom Tool works depending on whether you apply a pan and zoom effect to still versus video?
Are you doing the Time Remapping in the Time Remapping workspace, clicking Done to get back into the Expert workspace, and then using the Pan and Zoom Tool on the Time Remapped video on the Expert workspace Timeline? That does work. Although, instead of the Pan and Zoom Tool, you might still explore the keyframing of Scale property for zoom and Position property for pan in Applied Effects Tab/Applied Effects Palette/Motion Panel Expanded and its Scale and Position settings including the Toggle Animation button to initiate the keyframing process.
ATR, thank you for the comprehensive response.
After spending hours, I finally found what I suspect to be a Premiere bug that cause the confusion.
When I open the pan & zoom tool, the Pan & Zoom workspace that opens have the blue timeline that allow me to move and view the movie.
The timeline show the selected clip length, however when I scroll onto it, the displayed frames are not identical to what actually shows in the movie in that seconds.
(Also, there is big delay from when scrolling to the time that the frame is shown, but thats a minor issue).
The clip i'm working on is 40 seconds long.
When I scroll to 00:30 second, it actually show me around 00:15 seconds.
I then just place the frames around 00:30 and 00:35 seconds (I'm just gussing where it should be placed, because the image shown is not correct) and I press Done.
When playing the video, it perform the zoom & pan at the correct time.
Is this bug familiar ?
Or am I missing something.
Anyone familiar with this issue ?
Should I report it as a bug ?
You can report the issue that you are experiencing as a bug using the Adobe Feature Request Bug Report Form.
But, at this point, I think the issue goes to execution rather than bug.
I am planning on a detailed further reply (about the loss and gain of frames in what you are doing and other details of the process) but have not gotten to write it up yet.
NP ATR, I'll wait patiently.
Thanks you for your time
Thanks. My plan is to work through the workflow and post the detailed details. I am hoping to accomplish that before the weekend (today is Wednesday)....or sooner.
I have just finished my look into the Pan Zoom/Slow Fast Motion project that you are trying to do. If I have interpreted all your interests correctly, I have found the task doable in Premiere Elements. But, you do need to factor in the basic principles involved in these slow and fast motion effects. I have tried to explain by example in the following.
which I just finished putting together tonight.
I see no bugs, just the consequences of how these slow and fast motion effects are produced whether in Premiere Elements or another software.
Please consider. And, then we can compare our observations on the matter.