4 Replies Latest reply on May 13, 2015 8:20 AM by dmsduco

    Dissapearing nested tables

    dmsduco Level 1

      Please see this package, which contains INDD (CC2014, fully updated) and IDML file.


      This file is an excerpt of a catalog which i'm layouting (early phase).

      The table contains some nested tables. Somehow, many of these tables "dissapear". They are there, not in overset, but they aren't visible in InDesign nor when exporting to PDF.

      InDesign seems to need some trigger to make them visible again, by simply cutting the text frame and pasting it again, or by typing some text in the cell which contains the inline table (doesn't always work). Using an IDML to rebuild the INDD also fixes it.


      The INDD is saved with some disappeared nested tables in the right column.


      So... the problem is not how to get them back, but how to prevent them from disappearing...

      It happens all the time. Seems like a bug, but i'm not sure what causes it. I won't risk building the full catalog using these nested tables if they cannot be trusted.


      Any ideas what is causing this behaviour?

      As an alternative I could use tabbed paragraph styles instead of tables, but I prefer nested tables because of more flexible styling options (if they don't dissapear offcourse...).


      Any help appreciated!

        • 1. Re: Dissapearing nested tables
          Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Hm, downloaded your packaged file, opened the InDesign document and the provided IDML file in CC-2014.2.

          I can clearly see the problem.


          Then tried to use the Story Editor Window to check what is going wrong in the InDesign table.

          That crashed my CC-2014.2 instantly:


          Process: Adobe InDesign CC 2014 [3310]
          Path: /Applications/Adobe InDesign CC 2014.2/Adobe InDesign CC 2014.2.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CC 2014
          Identifier: com.adobe.InDesign
          Version: (10200)
          Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
          Parent Process: launchd [171]
          Date/Time: 2015-05-13 11:53:55.150 +0200
          OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63b)
          Report Version: 9
          Interval Since Last Report: 12325693 sec
          Crashes Since Last Report: 143
          Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 1718998 sec
          Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 14
          Anonymous UUID: 6B35CF4F-5E5F-486B-BD55-DA0DF8FA5323
          Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
          Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
          Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
          VM Regions Near 0:
          __TEXT 000000010b3bc000-000000010b3c2000 [ 24K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe InDesign CC 2014.2/Adobe InDesign CC 2014.2.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CC 2014
          Application Specific Information:
          objc[3310]: garbage collection is OFF
          Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
          0 WidgetBinLib.dylib  0x000000010b7431e7 FrameHitTestPolicyCallback::operator()(PMPoint const&, ITableFrame const*, ITableFrame::HitTestData*) + 55
          1 com.adobe.InDesign.Table Model  0x0000000119c04701 0x119b50000 + 739073
          2 com.adobe.InDesign.Text Editor  0x000000011532e274 0x1152ca000 + 410228
          3 com.adobe.InDesign.Text Editor  0x0000000115329b7f 0x1152ca000 + 392063
          4 com.adobe.InDesign.Text Editor  0x000000011533168e 0x1152ca000 + 423566
          5 com.adobe.InDesign.Text Editor  0x000000011533134e 0x1152ca000 + 422734
          6 com.adobe.InDesign.Text Editor  0x00000001153301e6 0x1152ca000 + 418278
          7 com.adobe.InDesign.Text Editor  0x000000011532febd 0x1152ca000 + 417469
          8 com.adobe.InDesign.Text Editor  0x00000001152f0f13 0x1152ca000 + 159507
          9 com.adobe.InDesign.Application UI  0x0000000115a6fd37 0x115a68000 + 32055


          I suspect, that something in your InDesign table is very, very wrong. May be the table is corrupt.

          Exporting to IDML and working on with the IDML file would be my recommendation.



          • 2. Re: Dissapearing nested tables
            dmsduco Level 1

            Thanks for testing.


            I've worked from the IDML a couple of times. Unfortunately, a few edits later the same problem exists again, the problem keeps coming back.

            • 3. Re: Dissapearing nested tables
              Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Then I would do a bug report on this and sending the files to Adobe (provide a download link and a reference to this thread).

              Maybe someone can assist me (Peter?, Bob?) with posting a relevant URL for doing so, if the following URL will not work for you:





              • 4. Re: Dissapearing nested tables
                dmsduco Level 1

                Bug reported!


                While the probable bug still exists, I'll try to rebuild the table from scratch, which will hopefully solve it in this document.