Water cooling might be quieter.
looking good, here are some considerations...
many prefer asus or gigabyte for mfg as they have some of the lowest failure ratings.
if you never plan on adding a bunch of pcie cards, or two graphics cards, the 5820k is almost the same performance but alot less. it just has less pcie lanes.
the define r5 case is good for silent builds. phanteks and corsair have some nice cases too.
i take it you are planning on overclocking, otherwise the 1k watt psu seems too much.
the gigabyte gtx with three fans is pretty long, double check the case you get to fit, or look at a two fan like the asus strix.
if you have backup drives and do backup regularly, you can try using the motherboard raid 0 with the 1tb WD drives. it's not as reliable as a dedicated raid card, but may work fine for you. the performance hit placed on todays powerful cpu's is minimal, so i wouldn't worry about that part. ssd prices will continue to drop, samsung is releasing their 2tb 850's soon which will help the price war. so if you don't need alot of space, you can also consider one day getting a ssd or two instead of worrying about hdd raid card.
noctua fans are some of the quietest. aio water cooling is usually louder, from the pump noise and high pressure fans. it takes large 360 aio rads to do any better than the new large air heatsinks. water cooling is only good for max/extreme overlock, and still carries the risk of leaking and damaging the system.
noctua fans are some of the quietest. aio water cooling is usually louder, from the pump noise and high pressure fans.
I didn't know that.
yeah, all this stuff keeps changing. the water cooling systems used to be the only option, until they started making massive heatsinks to compete. ssd's are another fast changing component. they are alot more reliable than hdd's now, last alot longer, but dont retain data as well when powered off. most people would still use hdd's for external shelf backups anyways.
I have the asus P6x58deluxe..something or other ...now with the i7 920 processor. it's been fantastic, but its time to upgrade.
With my suggested build, the motherboard was the thing I was least confident about. I was thinking the USB 3.1 connectors would be very useful as I'm stuck using the USb2.0 slots to ingest video now. The two usb3.0 slots dont work on the system I have and downloading video is a big pain.
all this was to say that I'm open to motherboard suggestions..
thanks for the comments thus far..y'all are very helpful.
picking a motherboard comes down to features, which you need to decide on. there are a few asus boards with usb 3.1 on newegg, you could also buy a pcie usb 3.1 card if you had to. most come with m.2 now too, if you care about that. if you are going to overclock the more expensive boards usually have better designs and components to handle it. you may want to look at reviews. when you find one you like, you can download and read/skim thru the manual to avoid any surprises too.
OK...so I made the order today...(Newegg published their DIY coupons today, so what the heck!)
Here's where I'm at:
- 1 x MSI X99A MPOWER LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
- 1 x Intel Core i7-5930K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.5GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W BX80648I75930K Desktop Processor
- 1 x Thermaltake Overseer RX-I VN700M1W2N Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
- 1 x EVGA 220-PS-1000-V1 80 PLUS Platinum 1000 W 7 yr Warranty ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI Ready and Crossfire ...
- 1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4-24000) Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C15Q-32GRK
- 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
- 1 x EVGA 04G-P4-3975-KR GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Graphics Card
Thanks for your input all..
you didn't list your cpu cooler, i hope you didn't forget it?
that power supply is made by seasonic. seasonic's are goood.
looks like it will be a good system.
Thanks Ronin, I did forget about the cooler.
I was reading up on the Noctura DH-15 and it's freaking enormous.
I scared myself and forgot all about it.
...more research needed...
with all the gear you got, you should be able to do a moderate overclock with that cpu pretty easy. but you will want a good cooler like the noctua and plenty of air moving thru the case to keep everything cool. you just have to check the dimensions of the heatsink will fit in the case. some heatsinks also have clearance issues with tall ram. you could also go with a heatsink a bit smaller, and still be able to overclock. if you have the lga 2011 accessories for the cooler master it should work, but not good for overclocking, and it has a noisy fan.
Thanks for all your help, Ronin, you earned the overall correct tag...
I bought the
Noctura NH-D15 SS02 afterall..
and some thermal paste..life is grand.
Thanks again everyone.
So, now I'm thinking about the samsung sm951 500g as a bootdrive in the m.2 slot, instead of the EVO 500 sata III...
anyone have thoughts on this..
once windows is booted and premiere is open, the boot drive isn't going to contribute alot for speed in premiere. its basically resorted to pagefile duty, which with alot of memory isn't used alot. your bottleneck will be the 1tb drives for media and cache. if you can fit everything onto the 512gb samsung m.2, then thats a good use for it. if you need more space, you can either look at the 1tb intel 750 pcie ssd, or get several samsung 850 pro ssd's and raid 0 on your motherboard. you can then use some of the 1tb WD hdd's as external drive backups. a clone backup of os/apps drive and file backups of media...
Thanks again, Ronin.
As much reading as I've done of the sets ups possible, my brain is starting to revolt. Such great info out there (tweakers page!) and forums like this are an amazing help.
I've read so much that it becomes a bit of a blur in what was good info and bad info and where I got it from.
I remembered reading that the boot drive is constantly being accessed and changed and updated, even if only the programs and OS are on that drive. So having a fast (SSD) drive there is really worth the money. I bought the samsung ssd EVO 500g with that in mind, but then I chose this motherboard with the faster m.2 connection and figured it might be worthwhile to use that EVO for something else- esp since the sm951 is said to be so much faster.
If I use the two SSD's for the OS/programs and maybe the media cache and media cache database that might be a useful way to go. -not sure if the 512g EVO is big enough for both the media cache and media cache database. I'd still have the bottleneck with the preview files
I'd still have 2- WD black 2tb HDD's (forgot to mention that I bought these as they were on a super sale -$80ea.) to use for the slower stuff -(maybe the media files/export files and back up).
What to do with the preview files- I'd sure like the preview files on something faster, especially if that would really help with timeline smoothness and previewing. I guess I really should think about a RAID.
The stuff doesn't start arriving until Monday, so I have time to rethink and adjusts my disk setup situation..
...ohhhh brain hurts....
beyond the normal bloatware that is windows (its processes constantly running and checking things), there shouldn't be many changes made unless installing programs and temp/cache files. i wouldn't worry about all that for os/apps drive as ssd's are pretty fast. the cache and preview files from premiere or especially AE are another matter. unless needed for budget reasons, its best to have a separate ssd for the cache. this means having 1 ssd for os/apps, 1 ssd for cache, and 1 ssd for media. the samsung 850 pro will also be a better option for cache over the evo version, as its built to endure lots more read/write cycles. the samsung sm951 and intel 750's are close to 4x faster than sata ssd's like the samsung 850's. that speed allows for media and cache to be on one drive, as long as there is enough space. they are also around 2x more expensive. where a raid 0 sata ssd can get about half the speed at half the price. another option to get some use out of your 1tb wd hdd's, is to use those in raid 0 for media, and use a samsung 850 pro ssd for the cache. setting up that raid and testing its performance in premiere and with hdd benchmark programs, is something you can do before buying a cache drive or any other drives to see what you might want to do.
I'm looking to build (or have one built) a new PC for premiere. Lots of great new build threads to read, this one in particular.
RoninEdits - I see you reply to lots of new build threads with some really great suggestions and insight. Based on this thread in regards to drives, would this be a good approach? In a new 5960x, x99 MOBO, 64g mem, single GTX-980, projects most often contain several multi-cam timelines, lots of edits and transitions, a combination of AVCHD, GoPro MP4, Nikon MOV, with multiple wav audio tracks, and sometimes a good amount on short clips of Magic Bullet or Pixelan.
1 - Samsung SSD Pro 512g - OS
2 - Samsung SSD Pro 512g - PR Project folders
3 - Samsung/Intel SSD m.2 - Media
4 - Samsung/Intel SSD m.2 - Cache
5 - HDD - Exports
ultra/x4 m.2 drives are super fast, so unless you need more space than the size of the m.2, its possible to place everything for the project on one m.2 drive. you would only need one sata ssd like the samsung 850 for the os/apps drive, and place cache/media/project on the samsung 950 pro m.2 drive. that leaves the hdd as the third drive, mostly for backups of projects and os/apps drive backup image.