12 Replies Latest reply on Sep 22, 2015 9:48 AM by JGaf

    Multi-level TOC

    Gania

      How do I create a third and forth level for a TOC without creating a new book? I want to put a topic under a topic. When I click the arrow moving the first topic to the left and try putting a topic under it, it moves the second topic above instead of below and the arrow is greyed out to move the first topic to the right.

        • 1. Re: Multi-level TOC
          Willam van Weelden Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          The only way to do this is with a book. But you can link a topic to a book. In that case, clicking the book will also open a topic.

          • 2. Re: Multi-level TOC
            Gania Level 1

            Really? Didn't earlier versions (I'm using 11) use multi-level TOCs? I haven't used RoboHelp in years, but I thought that options was available. Thanks

            • 3. Re: Multi-level TOC
              Captiv8r Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Hi there

               

              Indeed multiple level TOCs are possible. But as Willam says, the only way it has ever happened is by creating a book to establish the branch for the new level. I've never seen a TOC where a topic was a sub topic in the TOC without having a book as the main heading.

               

              Cheers... Rick

              • 4. Re: Multi-level TOC
                Gania Level 1

                Oh I do have a book. I don't think I explained correctly

                     Book: Navigating the System

                         First Topic: User Preferences

                            New Topic: Change Password <This is the third level I want to create, and may even need a 4th later

                • 5. Re: Multi-level TOC
                  Captiv8r Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  No, I do believe I'm understanding what you want. You want this:

                   

                  Toc1.png

                   

                  I had to modify that image using SnagIt.

                   

                  But in order for "New Topic" to be indented, the only way I'm aware it can be achieved is by creating a new Book at the same level as User Preferences.

                   

                  LIke this:

                   

                  toc2.png

                   

                  And it's been that way for as long as I've used RoboHelp. More than 20 years. Or, in all that time I've never seen anyone manage to accomplish the first scenario.

                   

                  Then again, I never claim to know all there is to know about anything. I'm always learning new things. Just this week I learned a new feature about TechSmith SnagIt that I had no clue was there. And SnagIt and I go back a long way as well! So if there's a way to make it happen, I'd love to learn about it.

                   

                  Cheers... Rick

                  • 6. Re: Multi-level TOC
                    Gania Level 1

                    Thanks, maybe that was the way I had done it before, I just remember being able to do that. I just knew it could be done. Thanks!

                    • 7. Re: Multi-level TOC
                      Peter Grainge Adobe Community Professional (Moderator)

                      By way of confirming that it is by design that you cannot indent a topic within a book, highlight any topic and you will see the left and right arrows are greyed out.

                       


                      See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips

                       

                       

                      @petergrainge

                      • 8. Re: Multi-level TOC
                        bethannb39959951

                        I agree with you! Flare allows for EASY multi-level TOCs. It makes no sense for a help authoring tool to not allow for multi-levels. RoboHelp 9 did it.

                        • 9. Re: Multi-level TOC
                          johndaigle Level 4

                          Hi, Gania and Bethannb

                          The TOC structure that is followed by virtually all help authoring tools is a Book and Page metaphor. Books can contain pages but pages don't contain pages. Beyond that, Books can contain "nested" Books.

                          Flare behaves the same way as RoboHelp in this respect. I just opened Flare v11 and could not see any way to create multi-level TOCs or "indented pages" under pages. The only reference I found in Flare's online help was to "multi-level lists", not TOCs.

                          Thanks

                          John Daigle

                          Adobe Certified RoboHelp and Captivate Instructor

                          Evergreen, Colorado

                          www.showmethedemo.com

                          • 10. Re: Multi-level TOC
                            Captiv8r Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                            Bethann, I would have to disagree with you on RoboHelp 9 having the ability. I've never seen this capability in any version of RoboHelp. I've been using it since version 2. So if that capability had been there, I'm pretty sure I'd have noticed it.

                             

                            Now if you are creating CHM output, you *COULD* fudge it a bit by choosing the page icon for the book. But that would only apply to that specific output.

                             

                            Cheers... Rick

                            • 11. Re: Multi-level TOC
                              Captiv8r Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                              Here is an example of a "fudged" TOC using the technique I described,

                               

                              tmp1.png

                               

                              Cheers... Rick

                              • 12. Re: Multi-level TOC
                                JGaf Level 1

                                Gania,

                                 

                                  Book: Navigating the System

                                         First Topic: User Preferences

                                            New Topic: Change Password <This is the third level I want to create, and may even need a 4th later

                                 

                                your "first topic" in the example above needs to also be a book because it will have subtopics.

                                 

                                The first topic book does not have to contain a link to a page, it will then display as a book to expand to see subtopics.

                                 

                                Does this answer your question?