3 Replies Latest reply on Jul 25, 2015 10:38 AM by RoninEdits

    Build PC VS. iMac 5k for hd video editing

    grimsbee

           Hello! I am looking for advice on a new video editing computer.  We have a couple of options we are considering at this time. 

       

      • Option 1: iMac 5K with upgraded processor to i7 and 32 gb of ram(purchased separately).

       

      • Option 2: build a custom PC $1500      This has similar, though not the same, specs as the imac. There are no speakers, keyboard, mouse, and the monitor is a 4k display not a 5k.

      PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QjNHTW
      Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QjNHTW/by_merchant/

      CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($279.99 @ Micro Center)
      CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
      Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($97.99 @ B&H)
      Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg)
      Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($65.25 @ OutletPC)
      Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC)
      Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg)
      Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
      Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
      Monitor: Samsung U28D590D 60Hz 28.0" Monitor  ($491.99 @ Best Buy)
      Total: $1439.06
      Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
      Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-10 21:36 EDT-0400

       

       

      • Option 3: build a PC $2000

      This build is right about the 2k $. There is no speakers mouse and keyboard. It includes the same 4k monitor as the previous build. The cpu is 15% faster, memory is faster 10-20%, multiple ssd and hdd for more storage. The video card is a down grade in order to get more storage, and the ability to run a raid 10 on the HDDs, Easily switchable back if it would be beneficial

      PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vYgcLk
      Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vYgcLk/by_merchant/

      CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ Micro Center)
      CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
      Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($208.11 @ B&H)
      Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($249.99 @ Newegg)
      Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($65.25 @ OutletPC)
      Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.95 @ OutletPC)
      Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.95 @ Amazon)
      Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.95 @ Amazon)
      Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.95 @ Amazon)
      Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.95 @ Amazon)
      Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Superclocked Video Card  ($222.98 @ Newegg)
      Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I ID ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
      Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($73.99 @ SuperBiiz)
      Monitor: Samsung U28D590D 60Hz 28.0" Monitor  ($491.99 @ Best Buy)
      Total: $2022.03
      Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
      Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-10 21:47 EDT-0400

       

       

      I am not sure of the performance of the iMac compared to windows regarding adobe premiere.  The $1500 PC has comparable hardware.  I have heard anecdotally that mac is more efficient with hardware. I do have a micro center local so i get a few bucks off the cpu

      How much of a gain would i get going with a $2000 PC?  Is it worth it for standard 1080 p? Is there anything you would change? Is there a totally new option I have not considered? Is a raid necessary for 1080p content?

        • 1. Re: Build PC VS. iMac 5k for hd video editing
          RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

          you need to decide if you want a 5k monitor and mac, or to save money and/or faster windows machine. the regulars here are pc folks, and will tell you pc.

           

          option 1: that imac is going to cost about $3k, to get the R9 M295X. which is still a fair amount slower than the gtx 960.

           

          option 2: minimum 16gb (2x8gb) memory. its preferred to go with nvidia for premiere, as cuda performs better than opencl. the gtx 960 being a slightly slower card, is very likely to outperform the R9 290 in premiere, and should be cheaper.

           

          option 3: you can still save you a bit of money, or you can spend the full budget of the imac on an even faster setup. the i7-5820K gets 15-25% faster benchmarks, depending on the benchmark program. the i7-5960X gets 50-80% faster benchmarks than the i7-4790k, again depending on the benchmark program. you may also want to find a higher quality power supply unit for option 3. for evga try to avoid any g1, b1 models. the evga 750 G2 and 750 P2 have a better oem than the g1 & b1, and are also gold/platinum rated.

           

          i would suggest finding a better cpu heatsink than the cooler master 212. it leaves little room for overclocking and has a noisy fan. noctua, phanteks, bequiet are a few mfg's that make large and quieter heatsinks and fans. if you want quiet, you can also look at a case like the fractal design refine r5. if you can get the samsung 850 pro's, they will last alot longer than the evo's. if doing alot of rendering previews in premiere or AE, you will want the 850 pro at least for the cache/preview drive.

          Please help with first time PC build

           

          i dont run mac, so i cant say if mac os runs premiere faster or not, but the faster pc build will more than make up for any difference. there does seem to be more bugs/problems with the mac version of premiere. option 3, if even for 1080p, will export alot faster and do effects like analyze warp stabilizer faster. you may not need raid for 1080p, depending on the format/codec, but faster drives will help make accessing clips while editing more responsive.

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          • 2. Re: Build PC VS. iMac 5k for hd video editing
            Bill Gehrke Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            When a few years back I had PPBM on a Hacintosh which I had dual-booting (absolute identical hardware) I could not see any difference in performance between Premiere for the Mac versus Premiere for Windows with our PPBM benchmarks

             

            Ronin,

             

            With my very fast first place X99 PPBM benchmark scores I happen to be using a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO which I upgraded with two faster fans and still do not think it is too noisy

             

            Bill

            • 3. Re: Build PC VS. iMac 5k for hd video editing
              RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

              the noise level is a preference, which i don't have much tolerance for. i had that cooler and the single 120mm 2000rpm fan was way to loud for me. i switched the fan with a larger 140mm fan with 120mm mounting, spinning at 1300rpm. 140mm phanteks start at $50 and noctua at $70, so there are quieter options to the cooler master that don't break the bank.