How can a keyword be added to the Keyword list if there are no keywords?
That list holds all keywords you ever used. It does not display just the keywords for an image you are viewing. So even though an image has no keyword assigned to it that list will still have all the keyword you have ever used in LR.
If you click on one of those keyword in the Keyword List only those images that have been assign that keyword will be displayed in the Library module and in the Film Strip area.
Look at the Keywording area and you will also see all of the keywords you have ever used with the keyword for the selected image in the upper box. If no keyword has been assigned then that upper box will be empty.
Keyword list with an image selected that has no keyword assigned.
Keywording area with an images selected that does have a keyword assigned.
Keywording area with an image selected that has no keyword assigned.
I import photos with a Metadata preset that has 'Keywords' checked and the keyword box left blank
Im willing to bet the keywords are all the same for the images.
If so, they are in the Preset. that Preset is called Metadata.
In the Apply During Import box select "None" for Metadata.
How can a keyword be added to the Keyword List when there are no keywords?
This is exactly the issue. The behaviour I see is that keywords that exist in the metadata of the photo that is being imported:
(1) are not included in the image metadata when the import settings include a metadata preset that has 'Keywords' checked and the keyword box left blank. This is the correct behaviour.
(2) even though they are not included in the image metadata they are nonetheless added to the Keyword set for the LR catalogue that the image is imported to. This is incorrect behaviour.
I do understand the difference between keywords in the catalogue and keywords in the metadata for the particular image.
That is a bet that you would lose.
This also happens in LR CC 2015.1.1 / OS X 10.10.4. I agree that if you've suppressed keywords embedded in photos from getting imported, it makes sense that those keywords should not be added to the Keyword List.
I don't know whether the current behavior is by design, a mistake implementing the intended design, or simply wasn't considered either way by the developers. I suggest you post a feature request in the official Adobe feedback forum (this forum here is a user-to-user forum in which Adobe infrequently participates): Recently active topics in Photoshop Family about Photoshop Lightroom
I have a preset that also has the Keyword field checked, but the field is blank.
But NO new keywords are added upon import. In Lr 6 (but I also used it in 5.7).
The question is where do the keywords added to the catalog come from? You refer to the keywords without saying anything about their origin.
I have had some issues before with metadata in the XMP section of the photo's metadata; Adobe for example stores hierarchical keywords in a tag there, and they sometimes are there even though there are NO keywords in the IPTC keyword tag. But Lr will pick them up.
You refer to the keywords without saying anything about their origin.
In my previous post, I referred to "keywords embedded in photos" prior to import.
Here's how to reproduce the problem:
1. Start with a photo with IPTC:Keywords set to "Test", with XMP:Subject and XMP:HierarchicalSubject blank. (The XMP fields can be non-empty, but I'm just trying to make this as simple as possible.)
2. Make sure there is no keyword "Test" in the Keyword List.
3. Create a metadata import preset called Clear Keywords, with Keywords checked but the keywords field blank.
4. Import the photo, using the import preset Clear Keywords.
5. Note that the photo in the catalog doesn't have any keywords attached, as expected -- the preset cleared the keywords. But nevertheless, "Test" appears in the Keyword List.
Obviously, during import LR reads the keywords stored in the photo, adds them to the Keyword List if they're not present, and then applies the metadata import preset. Htchmn and I would prefer that LR does it the other way round: First it applies the metadata preset and then it takes the photo's current keywords (if there are any) and adds them to the Keyword List if not already present.