16 Replies Latest reply on Jul 9, 2016 9:19 AM by BobLevine

    PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10

    jerry ls46071124

      I have a partially completed book using PageMaker 7.0 and running it fairly well with Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.   Will PageMaker 7.0 run with Windows 10 pro 64 bit? 

        • 1. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
          Steve Werner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          According to Wikipedia, Pagemaker 7 was released in July 2001.

           

          I'd guess that's it's pretty unlikely that it will run on an operating system developed 14 years later. Prove me wrong: Try to install it an let us know.

          • 2. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
            BobLevine MVP & Adobe Community Professional

            This is an InDesign forum but if you visit the PM forum you will find countless others that couldn’t even install PM on Windows 7. Don’t push your luck.

            • 3. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
              Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

              Some exceptionally strong recommendations:

               

              (1)    If you have a project to complete using PageMaker 7, don't convert your system from Windows 7 to Windows 10 until you have reached a point where you don't need to use PageMaker 7 anymore. Simply assume that PageMaker won't work on Windows 10 and you will be safe. Adobe never officially supported PageMaker on Windows 7 or Windows 8.x, much less Windows 10!!!!

               

              (2)    Many professionals familiar with Windows 7, Windows 8.x, and Windows 10 are advising existing Windows 7 users to wait. Windows 8.x users have a tremendous amount to gain from migrating to Windows 10. That is not at all true for Windows 7 users. Windows 7 is one of the most secure and reliable Microsoft offerings in many, many years! Let others deal with the Windows 10 initial bugs first!

               

              (3)    PageMaker is truly a dead product that as Steve Werner points out hasn't had a major update since 2001 and only a patch a few years later. Well over 10 years ago Adobe announced product end-of-life for PageMaker and encouraged PageMaker users to move to InDesign. You should most seriously consider your current project to be your last PageMaker project.

               

                        - Dov

              • 4. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                Willi Adelberger Most Valuable Participant

                IF you expe ct to work in future Years on the same project, e. g.  for an actualized second edition, stop immediately working on PageMaker, subscribe to CC, install CS6, convert this (and other projects you need to keep), and work on with the current version of InDesign. Otherwise you will loose any access to your digital work in very short time, as any possibility to convert PageMaker files is gone.

                • 5. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                  jerry ls46071124 Level 1

                  My current project IS my last PageMaker project; it is in fact my last ever project with any Adobe product.  I have found Adobe to be arrogant and inherently nasty in treatment of owners of their products.  I will never buy another software product from them...just despicable people.  JLS

                  • 6. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                    jerry ls46071124 Level 1

                    Steve: Thx for the reply.  I think you're correct.  When I was forced to upgrade to Win 7, I started to encounter a series of lies from software providers.  First, Microsoft told me that Adobe had a 'patch' or something similar, that would make Win 7 work with PM 7.  That was a TOTAL LIE.  Adobe didn't have anything, and all they tried to do was force m to buy something MUCH more expensive. I have succeeded in making Win 7 work with PM 7, and fairly well, but ....it was a long, LONELY progression because Adobe is an extremely arrogant outfit....almost as arrogant as Microsoft.  I really came to the tolerable situation that I'm in, by my own devices.  So, my opinion of Adobe as a company is minus 99 out of a possible +100 and Microsoft is in that same category.  If I were a bit younger I'd do as my two professional children have done:  go to Apple.  They are very happy with their Apple OS systems...been there now for several years.

                    • 7. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                      Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

                      For the record, I've never had a problem running PM7 on Windows 7 (not that I need to do it often), and no special patch was required. Here on the forum we see countless problems posted by users who upgrade their Apple operating systems, too -- nobody is immune to progress, and Apple has far less interest than Microsoft in assuring backward compatibility with older programs. As far as I know, PM can't even be installed on any recent Mac.

                      • 8. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                        BobLevine MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                        I am loving Windows 10. I did an in place upgrade from Windows 8.1 with the expectation that I would follow it with a clean install. There's simply no need right now for that. Everything runs beautifully. MSFT did a great  job with this. Not so sure going from Win 7 will be quite as successful so be prepared.

                        • 9. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                          Wadard Level 1

                          I have installed Pagemaker 7.0 onto a new Dell PC running Windows 10 64bit. I had kept a PM 7.0 Upgrade DVD, and a note of the serial number of my previous version of Pagemaker, which was 6.5

                           

                          It appears to have installed OK, and I have not found anything wrong yet.

                           

                          I accept the comments made earlier about the risk of continuing to use software which is no longer supported, in that files may eventually be unreadable, so there is a need to be cautious. However, so far, so good.

                          • 10. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                            markr7370102 Level 1

                            Having 'googled' the above issue and come to this forum, it's only right to confirm my solution is as above.

                            Using PM7.0 upgrade disc with 6.5 S/N loaded into Win10 Pro without a hitch, and works as before in Win7.

                            As regards some of the other comments it's all horses for.., regardless of badge open them up they are all the same.
                            MS used to spend in R&D what Apple made in revenue - may still be the same
                            Formally working in IT, what I'd say is know what you need to achieve, the best software you can afford, then buy the platform it was primarily intended for.

                            Seeing this is for my Father who should have retired years ago but still does a few funeral sheets and has always used PM since the last millennium, somehow updating now isn't an option..

                            • 11. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                              peterbiggs Level 1

                              Hi All

                              Faced the same problems a few years ago:  namely how to get PM65 (installed on XP) to work on Win 7.

                              Answer: Don't try installing the software. It won't.

                              1. Just copy the entire \pm65 directory under 'Program Files' in XP to the 32-bit directory in Win7 C:\Program Files (x86).

                              2. Create a shortcut on the desktop with the correct starting dir.

                              3.  There is a small file in the PM dir that can be clicked on and it places info into the registry. It has a .reg name.

                                   Start the program first using the shortcut and if it doesn't work, double click this and it will automatically be enetered into the registry.

                                   By the way, the small file can be edited (or just looked at) with a simple text editor.

                              4.  Now start the program.

                              It should work perfectly. Reads old files, makes new ones, etc. I've been using it for some time now.

                              Although PM65 may be old, the paradigm of moving through the book horizontally is far superior to anything else.

                               

                              Making PDFs. I first installed the latest 'black background' Acrobat 10 I think. Hard to use. Difficult to see.

                              Deleted it and now use Acrobat 8 which does everything I need it to do. ie. print to Adobe PDF.

                               

                              Have been happily creating books using the software. Won't upgrade to Win10 because I can't be bothered with the enormous disruption for no gain at all.

                               

                              ADDED EXTRA. many programs that won't re-install on Win7, 8 or 10 could very well work using a similar method of transfer. Occasionally you might need to tweak the registry.

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                              • 12. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                                floydhacker Level 1

                                PageMaker 6.0 (yes, version 6.0, © 1985-1995) definitely would not run under Windows 7 Pro (32) on my system. However, it seems to work quite well under Windows 10 Pro, including file and print operations. Some apps, such as the Microsoft Edge browser, may cause PM6 to hang when starting or closing (just exit the offending app to recover), so close whatever other apps you don't need before using PageMaker 6.0. Because the ancient PM6 application actually runs under Windows 10, there would seem to be a high probability that later versions such as PageMaker 6.5 and 7.0 may also perform decently. Also remember that you can revert from Windows 10 to back to your earlier Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 system for up to one month after upgrading.

                                • 13. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                                  jane-e Adobe Community Professional

                                  Although I have enjoyed reading this thread, I wonder if someone can move it to the PageMaker forum:Adobe PageMaker?

                                  • 14. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                                    Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

                                    My feeling is it's OK here.

                                    • 15. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                                      Steve Werner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                      I concur with Peter. Pagemaker has a special relationship with InDesign, and it's an educational thread because these questions about using it, and moving from Pagemaker to InDesign are going to come up again.

                                      • 16. Re: PageMaker 7.0 and Windows 10
                                        BobLevine MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                                        I'd leave it here, too. Nobody but me and couple of other old timers read the PM forum and even then, it's a stretch to be able to help.