3 Replies Latest reply on Aug 10, 2015 12:14 PM by A.T. Romano

    Help with XAVC-S 1080/60p workflow!


      Hi, last year I used a canon hf-r400 recording avc-hd 1080/60p to record youth football games. We used imovie 10 to import and edit the video; and had to export to dvd resolution... losing the resolution and the 60p. With imovie 10, even if you export to hd resolution, you still lose the 60p to 30p.


      Only way we could enjoy 60p would be if we hooked the camera directly up to our samsung 58" plasma. The plasma would detect the incoming signal as 1080/60p. Looked glorious and fluid with the 60p.


      This year we want to burn to blu ray and NOT DVD. We have a sony a5100. Want to record 1080/60p in XAVC S since the bitrate is over twice that of avc-hd. However, I want to buy a blu ray player and be able to import XAVC S 60p, edit, and export maintaining 1080/60p.


      Then, I would love to burn 1080/60p (non-compliant?) blu ray discs....

      Can premiere elements do this? Or do I need FCP and a blu ray burning software?


      I read that premiere elements burns to blu ray, unless you buy it from the apple app store? That version is blu ray crippled.


      Any other suggestions if elements 13 can't do this?



        • 1. Re: Help with XAVC-S 1080/60p workflow!
          A.T. Romano Level 7



          Premiere Elements 13/13.1 does offer burn to Blu-ray disc with a 60 progressive frames per second frame rate.

          The burn to Blu-ray disc format on Blu-ray disc are

          H.264 1440 x 1080i NTSC Dolby

          H.264 1440 x 1080i PAL Dolby

          H.264 1440 x 1080p NTSC Dolby NEW

          H.264 1920 x 1080i NTSC Dolby

          H.264 1920 x 1080i PAL Dolby

          H.264 1920 x 1080p NTSC Dolby NEW


          Except for the two 1080p presets with frame rate of 23.976 progressive frames per second, the other presets all have a frame rate of 29.97 interlaced frames per second NTSC or 25 interlaced frames per second. 

          The above allows for the inclusion of a disc menu.

          The workaround for what you want does not.

          Export your 1920 x 1080 @ 59.94/60 progressive frames per second Timeline to a file 1920 x 1080 @ 59.94/60 progressive frames per second and then, using non Premiere Elements means, transfer that to a Blu-ray disc (data disc), USB Flash Drive, or Memory Card/Stick and determine if your Blu-ray player will support it. Disc menus are not available in this route. Disc menus are provided for only in the disc products with Premiere Elements.

          To give you a specific example of the Timeline content export to 1920 x 1080p60 Timeline....

          What video codec are you using: XAVC-S or AVCHD 2.0....

          Assuming XAVC-S for the moment (I recall you saying that is what you are using now)...

          Set the project preset = NTSC/AVCHD/AVCHD 1080p60

          For the export to file




          with Presets =  MP4 - H264 3840 x 3180 29.97p 30 Mbps

          and then customize that preset to your 1920 x 1080p60 under the Advanced Button/Video Tab of that preset


          Please review and consider. If any questions or need clarification, please do not hesitate to ask.

          Thank you.


          • 2. Re: Help with XAVC-S 1080/60p workflow!
            bobbyc03 Level 1

            Hi, yes we are using the larger sensor sony a5100 and 1080/60p XAVC-S this year.


            Somewhere I read that premiere elements imports this video format; which I think you just confirmed....?


            I read elsewhere that 60p 1080p blu rays are non-spec, but some burning software lets you make them anyways, and some players will play them.


            So it sounds like premiere elements will let me keep my workflow at least, and I might have to find a 3rd party blu ray burning software to do 60p 1080 blue rays?


            • 3. Re: Help with XAVC-S 1080/60p workflow!
              A.T. Romano Level 7



              Thanks for the reply.


              Just some just in case notes


              1. The project presets for XAVC S are for the 4K sizing of 3840 x 2160 and are found under NTSC/AVCHD/ QF choices. Each of those Adobe choices are not adjustable. So, for your 1920 x 1080p60 recorded using the XAVC S video compression, the focus in project preset is based on format size not video compression. The preset is directing the program to creation of a 1920 x 1080 space in the Edit area monitor for editing.


              2. It is another matter when you get to export where you use Publish+Share/Computer/XAVC S, not AVCHD, for what you want to do in the way of a file with the compression with which you started, namely XAVC S.


              Also, may be of interest in the following as you go deeper into the subject...

              ATR Premiere Elements Troubleshooting: PE 13/13.1: 4K XAVC-S p59.94 and p50