Can you send me such a file or put a link from the dropbox, it can be without real text, but with the styles?
I am sorry, I am not able to open or blind open this file to export as IDML or repair in any other form.
Perhaps this will help? I managed to open it in InDesign CS6 and create an IDML at one point. Some attributes might have been lost though (paragraph shading).
Link to the IDML file: Dropbox - InDesign_crashing_bug.idml
I had no problem to open it.
I would recommend you to save the symbols as AI files in Illustrator and place them as linked files instead of InDesign drawing, as it would be easier to manage for InDesign.
Wow, I don't know why or how but your suggestion made the trick. I saved the symbols as AI files as suggested and imported them back in the InDesign file. It doesn't seem to crash anymore but it will need more testing. Still, I wonder why the workaround (deleting the GREP and nested styling) also worked.
Thanks a lot for all your help!
Sorry about that, I spoke a little too fast… InDesign crashed as soon as I tried exporting as a PDF
I guess I need to forget about GREP and nested styling at the moment…
tried opening that provided IDML as well. I could successful open it in CS4 and CS6.
But it crashed my InDesign while trying to open it in my German CC v9.3.0 and CC 2014.2 v10.2.0 on OSX 10.7.5.
Also tried to get an IDML out of the provided InDesign document using the "Simple-Save-Back-Service" by Adobe, but to no avail.
Willi, I assume, that you could open the IDML file with CC 2015.2…
By the way, I don't know if it's useful l but I'm using French version of CC 2015.2
very useful, I think.
My guess is, that the naming of the character styles used in the GREP styles may be the culprit. But I have to verify this first. Could be, that the GREP styles are allergic against some special characters. As I already said: I could open and save the IDML in CS6 v8.1.0 successfully.
And what I did not mentioned yet, but now tried:
Opening that CS6 document in CC 2014.2 will crash InDesign immediately.
I'll be back with some more news in a few minutes…
Hm. Must be something else but the naming…
I successfully recreated the document in CC-2014.2 by opening the IDML in CS6 v8.1.0 and:
1. Stripped all page items out of all pages. Note: I left the master spread alone.
2. Exported that stripped document to IDML and successfully opened it in CC 2014.2 to a new document, let's call that document "B.indd".
3. Exported the threaded story out of CS6 as a single snippet file: Story.idms
To do that, I created a new, very big text frame on the pasteboard of spread one, threaded this with the text frame on page one, made sure, that all text is on the pasteboard and exported the big text frame to IDMS snippet format.
4. Finally placed that IDMS in "B.indd" and let the whole story flow from page to page as it was in the "original" IDML provided by Thomas.
Thomas, that could be a way to solve your problem.
I still have to test this solution with CC 2015.2.
I could open the IDML directly in CC2015.2 and it seems that even the paragraph shadows have survived.
I have running another problem which seem to me similar and is even proofed from Adobe to be fixed. When I use a specific font InDesign crashes upon PDF export. But when I convert the bullets to normal text or when I change to a different font, it causes no problem.
What I would test, if a different font is also causing problems.
Externalizing symbols helps to reduce file size upon export.
Hello again Uwe and thanks a lot for your help,
I followed your steps succesfully but the stripped file (B.indd) still makes InDesign crash unfortunately :-(
Willi: I forgot about that, I managed at some point to open the INDD file in CC 2015 and did the IDML from there, not from CS6 :-)
Willi: This is interesting. The only time I'm able to open the INDD file without InDesign crashing is when the needed font are unactivated in my font manager (FontExplorer 5) AND FontExplorer is closed. Then, InDesign prompts FontExplorer to launch, I get the usual font activation panel and I'm able then to open the file.
Thing is, I actually changed the fonts used in this document recently, I switched from Melior (before) to URW Latino (now). But the problem was already there when document was using the Melior font. Still, the problem seems to come from here.
Hello again Uwe,
I was wondering if you had any luck with your previous solution in InDesign CC 2015.2? I'm unfortunately still trying to make this file work :-(
I didn't have time to try my method with CC 2015.2 yet.
Something I forgot telling you about my method, maybe important, is step 4 and 5 in the list below:
1. I opened your IDML file in CS6 v8.1.0 on OSX 10.7.5.
2. Saved the file to two documents:
3. Stripped all page items from document's A pages and spreads (I did not touch the master)
4. Removed all pages but page one in case something's wrong with a corrupt page
// This is working on the active document: app.documents.spreads.everyItem().pageItems.everyItem().remove();
5. I removed all not used character styles and paragraph styles in A
6. Saved A with "Save As"
7. Exported A to IDML => MasterPlusPageOne-CS6.idml
7. Opened the IDML in CC 2014.2 => That did not crash.
8. Opened the saved document from step 6 in CC 2014.2 => No crash.
Plus working on doc B, AllFormattedTextInOneTextFrame-CS6.indd , to get all text in one text frame (no overflowing text !! ) and export that text frame to IDMS.
Finally placed that IDMS file in the document of step 8 in CC 2014.2. => No crash.
Maybe I'm able to test later or tomorrow.
But honestly I doubt that …
This has to wait until holidays are over.
Thank you Uwe for your fast reply and for your help, I will try your method probably today or tomorrow.
I wish you very happy holidays!
Happy New Year to you!
Find here my converted files.
I had no problems opening the CS6 versions in InDesign CC 2015.2.
Download the zip-file from my Dropbox account here:
( I will remove the files, if you want to or by the end of January 2016)
Hello Uwe and a happy new year to you too!
I've just seen your reply now, sorry about that. I will try and download your converted files as soon as I have some time and will keep you informed.
Thanks a lot for your help!