27 Replies Latest reply on Jun 28, 2016 12:37 AM by Richard pictures

    Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller

    framednoise Level 1

      Don't think I've seen this board mentioned yet and some of you might be interested.


      Ever since Intel released their own USB 3.1 and Thunderbolt 3-controller for the Z170 Skylake chipset I've been looking for an X99 motherboard with the Alpine Ridge (DSL6540) chip. So far, the only X99 boards I've seen with USB 3.1 use additional third party ASMedia controllers that some users seem to have problems with.


      That was, until now. The new GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket 2011-3 - GA-X99P-SLI (rev. 1.0) has the Intel DSL6540 chip and thus USB 3.1/TB3 support. Although their own page doesn't really mention Thunderbolt 3 yet it apparently works with the same drivers as the Z170 boards according to a user review on Newegg: GIGABYTE GA-X99P-SLI (rev. 1.0) LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard …

       

      Not much else written about this board yet but I found a short presentation from CES 2016 on Youtube too: Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 6 & X99P-SLI Motherboards @ CES 2016 - YouTube

       

      Any system builders that can share opinions of the Gigabyte boards? I guess there will be more boards with the DSL6540 controller out soon, in good time for the Broadwell-E launch.


       

        • 1. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
          RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

          gigabyte is one of the top mfg's for parts, along with asus, but didn't seem to have good features with their x99 boards. looks like thats changed and this could be a great board, especially at its price. to find an asus mbd that could 4-way sli would cost almost 2x this mbd. i also like the reinforced pcie slots for big/heavy gpu's. i looked at the manual, it doesn't seem to clearly say if any pcie slots share cpu pcie lanes with the m.2 slot like the asus boards. it does say that raid is disabled when using m.2, which might turn off some people.

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          • 2. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
            jeffl87898167

            I own a Gigabyte X99P-SLI (I even have a review on Newegg).

             

            Not sure if my insight will be useful to people but in short I must say that I am impressed with this board. I have built over 30 computers and work part time in the film/media industry with photo editing, video editing and after effects. That being said, this motherboard has all the features you could need (and more) to accomplish your media/creative tasks.

             

            PROS;
            1) Expandable to 128GB of Memory (8x)

            2) Support for latest M.2 standard (PCI-E 3.0x4) - Only few X99 boards have this. There is one or two from MSI and one or two from EVGA.

            3) Supports upcoming 2011-v3 processors in latest bios update

            4) Thunderbolt 3.0 and USB 3.1 (first one based on intel processor)

            5) Metal reinforced PCI-E lanes

            6) 4x Full PCI-E 16x lanes

            7) Stable and reliable

            8) Isolated audio channels on motherboard

            9) USB 3.1 type C and type A

            10) Configurable light ray trace for audio (just something cool)

            11) Worth the $250 or less price tag

            12) Good CPU heatsink clearance with the motherboard heatsinks.

             

            CONS:

            1) Bios was initially an issue. It was slow and clunky but with the latest F20 bios I noticed a substantial improvement. They also fixed the XMP profile issue with AUTO CPU mode.

             

            Overall:

            Overall this is a great motherboard with the latest gen technology on an x99 platform. Working with video editing and after effects, I have noticed no hiccups or slow downs, no blue screens or restarts. If you are looking for an expandable motherboard with the newest features then this is a no brainer.

            • 3. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
              Bill Gehrke Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              I like some of the claims for this board and may buy one, but have to correct one wrong impression above:

               

              "2) Support for latest M.2 standard (PCI-E 3.0x4) - Only few X99 boards have this. There is one or two from MSI and one or two from EVGA".

               

              All the X99 motherboards from ASUS do fully support these new super SSD devices and provide this kind of performance.  And truly with our PPBM Disk I/O benchmark we can achieve a write rate of 1500 MB/second when using one of these devices

              • 4. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                gigabyte's website has this notice for the motherboard, but i do not see any info about it in the manual:

                * Theoretical Bandwidth, M.2 Bandwidth may vary by CPU model.

                 

                one reviewer on newegg said gigabyte sent him this message:

                Please check the CPU as well as the 5820K bandwidth is limited as compared to the 5930K CPU. On our testing for this board for this Samsung M.2:

                  If using 5930K, the speed is around 2591MB/s.

                  If using 5820K, the speed is around 1671MB/s.

                 

                this suggests poor cpu pcie lane assignment design for the 28 lane cpu. the manual doesn't specifically say x8/x8/x8 for the 28 lane, but its suggested with the expansion slot notes and support for 3 way sli with the 28 lane cpu. the last x4 allocation is unclear to me as i couldn't find any info in the manual. if its assigned to the last pcie slot, then a x4 m.2 pcie adapter could be used to let the 28 lane cpu get around the m.2 slot issue. the message from gigabyte sounds like they had to test it just to figure out what it's suppose to do. the poor documentation and design worries me about this board and company.

                • 5. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                  Richard pictures

                  I just bought a m.2 hdd, and 10x hard disk for Gigabyte x99p-sli, can I raid 8 hard disk as media hard drive and the rest run individually as operating system, cache, output/preview/ auto save?  Hopefully you expert can answer my question.

                   

                  Thanks in advance.

                  • 6. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                    RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                    the 10 sata ports are split to 6 + 4, and the last 4 do not allow for raid. so i believe you can only use up to 6 drives in raid. if using 6 drives is too small of capacity, you may have to buy a raid card or return 8 hdd for 6 larger ones.

                     

                    there is also this note on newegg for the motherboard:

                    Support for RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10

                    * Only AHCI mode is supported when an M.2 PCIe SSD or a SATA Express device is installed.

                    i couldn't find this on gigabytes website or in the manual. if its true you might get around it by using a pcie m.2 adapter card and avoiding the m.2 slot on the motherboard, or using a raid card for the hdd's.

                    • 7. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                      Richard pictures Level 1

                      Hi Ron

                       

                      So if I buy a pcie raid adapter card, I can use additional 2x hdds with those 6xhdds in raid mode. right?  As raid adapter use only pclex1 slot, but I won't use m.2 ssd adapter because I will lost pciex16 slot and the board has other 4x sata connectors on board if the following message is true. 

                      Support for RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10

                      * Only AHCI mode is supported when an M.2 PCIe SSD or a SATA Express device is installed.

                      I saw this message is listed under the Internal storage interface section of MB manual, but not sure it's still valid.

                      • 8. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                        RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                        hardware based raid cards will have one or more sas ports that support 4 sata drives per sas port. newer ones usually have mini sas ports such as the SFF-8643. these raid cards support drives in multiples of 4, such as 4 hdd, or 8 hdd, or 12 hdd, etc. so you will be able to buy one that will work with up to 8 hdd. areca is a good brand, often recommended and used by people in this forum.

                         

                        these hardware raid cards use x8 pcie lanes, so they will have to go in one of the x16 size slots, and not the x1 slots. sata/raid cards that use those x1 are cheap/junk raid cards. it may also depend on which cpu are using, as the i7-5820k and i7-6800k only have 28 lanes vs the rest of the more expensive i7 or xeons that have 40 pcie lanes. if you have the 28 lane cpu, that motherboard can still support 3 cards in the top 3 x16 size pcie slots, splitting the 28 lanes to x8/x8/x8. the motherboard manual shows the different pcie lane configurations for the different cpu's.

                         

                        if you haven't used a raid card before, you might want to do some research. if you are using 8 larg hdd's, you may want to use raid 6 or better to lower the risk of a complete raid failure. you will also want to have a UPS powering your computer, one that is also connected by usb that can turn off the computer if the power is out and the UPS battery is low.

                        • 9. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                          Richard pictures Level 1

                          I would prefer to use the 6 onboard raid connectors in conjunction with two

                          ports from raid adapter using pclex1 slot, is it possible?  because I don't

                          want to lose pclex16 slot, I possibly need to install 4 GPUs in the end to

                          speed up rendering process.

                          • 10. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                            Richard pictures Level 1

                            BTW, I use i76850k, so it won't have lane restriction.

                            • 11. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                              RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                              you must be using some other software beside adobe to require 4 gpu's, premiere is usually fine with just one.

                              which gpu's are you planning on using? and have you already purchased them?

                               

                              the only way you could mix and match different sata ports to get to 8 hdd's and still raid, would be using software raid. last time i looked, there wasn't any good options for this for raid 6 or better, on windows. Microsoft has been trying to copy ZFS for over a decade, but last i heard its still not reliable. so short answer, no.

                               

                              if you don't want to run 3 gpu's and a raid card or 6 drives using motherboard raid isn't enough, your options may be limited to an external setup using the thunderbolt or network connections. a 10gbe nas would be fast, but your motherboard only lists a slow 1gb ethernet port. there are thunderbolt to 10gbe adapters, but they are also very expensive. promise technology makes some thunderbolt storage devices that have built in raid cards and hold 8 hdd's, but are also very expensive.

                              • 12. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                Richard pictures Level 1

                                Premiere only works with one GPU when editing, but works with multiple GPUs

                                when rendering.  It's good when you have lots of effects on timeline.

                                 

                                Ok, I have to sacrifice 2 hdds, so I only have 6 left, do you know how much

                                speed difference out of 6 hdds in raid 0 and raid 5?  50mb/s or something

                                in terms of reading?

                                • 13. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                  RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                                  it might be well over 100mb, it would depend on the speeds of the drives, which also depends on how full and fragmented they are. motherboard raid will not function as fast as a real raid card, so you might run into speed limitations with the motherboard raid that limit performance even lower.

                                   

                                  were you still planning on using the m.2 ssd? and have you checked to see if using it disables the motherboard raid?

                                   

                                  premiere is a cpu based program, with gpu support second. so you really have to be doing something special to need more than one or two gpu's for premiere. especially with only a 6 core cpu, its going to limit what premiere can do. people using two gpu's usually need the second for red raw debayering.

                                  • 14. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                    Richard pictures Level 1

                                    If it's over 100mb, then I will use raid 0 then.  I have m.2 in front of

                                    me, but the motherboard manual and online features from Gigabyte site

                                    clearly says only ACHI mode is available when M.2 or sata express

                                    populated, so I don't try.  Should I give a try?

                                     

                                    True, when cpu 6 core reaches its limit, the number of GPU is limited too,

                                    but I have two old cards already and plan to purchase the upcoming next gen

                                    geforce card, so I will have 3 minimum for sure, the fourth one may or may

                                    not be plugged in. I am thinking if I I use one pclex16 slot (8x speed) for

                                    8 hdds in raid, the speed will be limited to that of 8x pcie speed which is

                                    half speed of 16x pcie. I guess using raid card and onboard raid will be

                                    similar if they are all ssd, maybe slightly different for spinning hdds.

                                    • 15. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                      RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                                      i looked the newegg reviews for your motherboard, searched for raid, and there were some reviewers that had a m.2 drive and raid in their comments. so maybe it does work? if you already have the m.2 drive opened and/or are planning on keeping it, it might be worth testing. if you were using the m.2 drive for the os/apps drive, it would be overkill, and you might want to return it. a sata ssd samsung 850 will be fine for os/apps.

                                       

                                      if you mix and match different speed gpu's, say two older gtx 670 and a faster new gtx 1070, the older cards will hold back the new card(s). so you might as well get another used card of the same speed as the ones you already own, or sell the old ones and go with 1 or 2 new fast gpu's.

                                       

                                      pcie x8 would be rated at 7.8gb bandwidth, you wouldn't get close to that even with 8 ssd. also, if you don't have nas or enterprise drives, you might as well use motherboard raid 0 and 6 drives. if they are nas or enterprise, using 8 on a hardware raid card should perform better, and also gives you more parity raid configurations to choose from.

                                      • 16. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                        Richard pictures Level 1

                                        My original plan to use m.2 is for two purposes, one is to free up one sata

                                        port, and the other one is to use it as a cache drive, not for os/app.  But

                                        I will give it a try since I already opened the package.  Also apart from

                                        upgrading bios after installing MB, what other software I need to upgrade

                                        from Gigabyte site.

                                         

                                        I don't use SLI for editing, so mixing different cards will be fine.

                                        Premiere doesn't support SLI anyway.

                                        • 17. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                          RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                                          whichever drivers and utilities you may need. if you plan on using the bios to setup things like the fans and overclock, you may not need to bother with those utilities.

                                           

                                          i was never suggesting or talking about sli.

                                          we had posts from people using two different video cards, premiere was trying to send both cards 50/50 of the workload, so the slow card was at 99% and the fast card was around 50%. so unless something has changed in premiere, you may end up with the same problem.

                                          • 18. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                            Bill Gehrke Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                            What make and model is your M.2 drive?  There are good and bad ones on the market.

                                            • 19. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                              Richard pictures Level 1

                                              I thought it would work like that, Pr send one frame rendering job to one

                                              card and second frame to the second card, and then if one card finishes its

                                              job, Pr will give the third frame to render regardless which one is slow or

                                              fast, otherwise there is no point to keep old cards as mentioned by Adobe

                                              product manager in a video last year.

                                               

                                              I bought a M.2 samsung evo 850

                                              • 20. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                                RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                                                i thought you had the samsung 950 pro or similar. the evo 850 would be ok, but i don't see it on the supported m.2 list. so i don't know if the motherboard will work with it. some only accept pcie m.2 like the 950 pro.

                                                • 21. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                                  Richard pictures Level 1

                                                  you are right, Ron, I put it on, and there is nothing in bios you can make

                                                  it appear.  So I definitely have to buy a adapter or resell it.

                                                  • 22. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                                    Bill Gehrke Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                    I would not bother getting an adapter, I am not sure it would work as the adapters I know are designed for the PCI gen3 x4 M.2 devices and not for SATA III M.2.  While I have a stack of adapters I do not have any SATA III M.2 device to test that theory.

                                                    • 23. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                                      RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                                                      if you were to use a pcie x4 adapter, its going to take a x16 slot that could be used for a raid card or your gpu's. if you skip the m.2 drive, a pcie x1 sata controller card could connect 2-4 more sata ssd's. it will require one of your four gpu's is single slot size and not double, to avoid covering up the pcie x1 slot. if you go with 3 double slot gpu's, third in the very bottom pcie x16 slot, there should be room for a pcie x8 raid card and pcie x1 sata controller card.

                                                      • 24. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                                        Richard pictures Level 1

                                                        I was told by local computer seller it's better wait for the external HDD

                                                        raid box usb 3.2.  The internal pciex16 port for Raid adapter maybe a good

                                                        temperary solution .  But what is the point to use internal pciex1 slot

                                                        raid adapter where we have 4 non-raidable sata ports onboard already?

                                                        • 25. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                                          Richard pictures Level 1

                                                          I have another question.  I have two hdd in raid 0 already, since I will

                                                          anther 4 disks in the array, will I be better start from new, or just

                                                          expand them on top?

                                                          • 26. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                                            RoninEdits Most Valuable Participant

                                                            my last post was just some examples of how much you would be giving up by using a pcie m.2 adapter for a single m.2 sata drive, not necessarily recommending to do those examples.

                                                             

                                                            usb 3.2? perhaps they meant usb 3.1 gen 2? (no one is calling it usb 3.2)

                                                            if you are talking about an external raid box for your 6-8 raid setup, i don't recall seeing any usb devices that raid that many drives. external raid would be handy if you need to transfer the raid between different computers quickly, other than that an internal raid card will be better. usb would have lower bandwidth and possibly higher latency over pcie x8 or x16 raid card, and almost all external raid drive enclosures use junk raid controllers, so the raid performance will suffer from that as well. any quality usb or thunderbolt external raid enclosure with a real raid card inside of it, will cost 2-4 times as much as just the pcie raid card.

                                                             

                                                            i don't remember if the intel raid will let you add more drives, it may require you to rebuild the raid from new.

                                                            • 27. Re: Gigabyte GA-X99P-SLI the first X99 board with Intels USB 3.1/TB3 controller
                                                              Richard pictures Level 1

                                                              I returned the m.2 ssd already, intel raid won't allow me to add more hdds

                                                              onto existing one, so rebuilt a new raid.  External usb3.2 I mean similar

                                                              speed as thunderbolt 3 using the same port on the Mobo.