10 Replies Latest reply on Aug 22, 2017 8:06 AM by TaylorJMcBride

    Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"

    christianb52134722 Level 1

      Hi there,

       

      I'm trying to optimize 360° panoramas from my Ricoh Theta S panorama camera in Lightroom CC.

       

      The problem with the developed images is a visible border/edge/line where the left and the right border of the plain jpg meet. This is of cause visible only, when displaying the processed pano in a software or on a website. It looks like this:

       

      screenshot-pano-rand.jpg

      Is there a possibility to "protect" the borders in some way while editing? Or is there a way to tell Lightroom that it is handling a 360° panorama?

       

      I could not find one answer in the web. You always get tutorials for merging images to a pano, but never for editing a already merged, full panorama.

       

      Many thanks for your help

      Christian

        • 1. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
          ssprengel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          There is no special seamless mode for Lightroom that matches the two ends as you edit.  What I have done in the past is to use Photoshop and shift the image over and then heal/clone over the seam.

           

          Photoshop also has a way to project the image into a spherical panorama 3D workspace, but I don't remember how to edit it, directly, to clone out the seam on the projected image, nor how to unwrap it, again.  If you want to play with it, here's how:

          • 2. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
            Jao vdL Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            If you want to edit 360 degree panoramas (I do a lot of those and like to post them on google maps) in Lightroom the cardinal rule is to not touch highlights, shadows, whites, blacks, and Clarity. Those are HDR tools that do not know how to wrap themselves around. You can use the Tone curve. You can also do local edits as long as you don't edit at the left and right border. You can also do graduated filters as long as you make them perfectly horizontal. Here is an example of a spherical pano that I did final edits on in Lightroom: Google Maps. There is a graduated filter in the middle that I edited a bit using brushes. My workflow for these is quite involved but most of the edits happen in Lightroom after stitching.

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            • 3. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
              christianb52134722 Level 1

              Cool. Many thanks to both of you!

              • 4. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
                marcopolo34 Level 1

                Jao, looks like you have some experiance with 360 panos. I am trying to stich 36 frames from a phantom drone ( 3 rows x 12 each) but cant get full horizontal sphere. If I go to PS filter/other/offset I can clearly see its not full. I tried many times on various sets but never get full circle. Do I do something wrong? Or there is a trick how to fill missing rows of pixels to overlap left and right side? Thanks

                • 5. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
                  Jao vdL Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  marco,

                   

                  The issue is that you cannot stitch full 360 panoramas in Lightroom nor in Photoshop. They don't understand going around the 180 degrees borders. You have to use other software to do this. I use hugin, a free and open source piece of software. But this is very hard to install and use. There are many others that are commercial such as PTGui or AutoPano that are much easier to use. They all stitch around the boundaries and can create fully immersive spherical panos. The thread here was really about how to edit the output from such programs in Lightroom.

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                  • 6. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
                    ftarnogol Level 1

                    How do you revert the spherical projection back to equirectangular?

                    • 7. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
                      Jao vdL Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      The spherical panoramas I was referring to are stitched in hugin in equirectangular projection. I was using spherical in the sense of that it is a full sphere around you when projected in a panorama viewer. I share a lot of these on google maps. Here is an example of such a pano: Google Maps.

                      • 8. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
                        TaylorJMcBride Level 1

                        I feel like I may be having the same issue. I'm considering (1) starting a new thread about it (2) continuing to search threads.

                         

                        I also have a 360 LG camera which has two cameras and does the stitching inside the camera before the file is saved automatically. I import the files into photoshop to apply adjustments, and as long as I retain the metadata to the file, then when I upload it, Facebook and other viewers recognize it as a 360 pano and allow it to be viewed in VR. I've learned from research that there are specific HTML tags you can insert to the medadata (although I don't know what they are!) or sometimes the camera meta data will trigger the viewer. So I just keep the metadata as is (which means I have to edit the file as a JPEG and can not save it as a PSD and then export a JPEG, but I digress.

                         

                        I found it very hard to locate tutorials on how to take such a file a flat JPEG, and then load it into Photoshops 3D mode to perform edits. Because I have the same issue, I often (especially if I apply very much adjustments) get those sharp lines where the photos are stitching, now if I had to the ability to use the close stamp tool in 3D mode, then I would be able to simply draw over the edge, but when I follow this process outlined in the following youtube video: (which is subtittled and in french) I'm not able to "grab" the image itself as he does in the video, I'm always forced to move my vantage point.

                         

                         

                         

                        Create a 360° illustration from A to Z on Photoshop - YouTube

                         

                        Ok so now I feel equally smart and stupid. I have managed to get inside of the 3d Space and look around inside my photograph, but when I try to apply brush or clone stamp to the stitching line, I can not. I have the sphereical panorama selected, but I can not even sample the colors on it.

                         

                        How do I apply edits to the material?

                         

                        Taylor J. McBride

                         

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                        • 9. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
                          Jao vdL Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                          Taylor,

                           

                          the metadata is described on this page: Photo Sphere XMP Metadata  |  Street View  |  Google Developers. This works for Facebook, google maps, and many other places where you can view spherical panorama images. I usually insert this in Photoshop in the metadata file info thing by writing out the metadata to a xmp file, editing that file in a text editor and loading it back into the image. This metadata will then be retained by Lightroom and others.

                          • 10. Re: Editing full 360° panoramas and "protecting borders"
                            TaylorJMcBride Level 1

                            Thank you that is very helpful

                             

                            Taylor J McBride

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