14 Replies Latest reply on Apr 26, 2006 5:45 PM by Newsgroup_User

    ActiveX

    sudsburg
      Will Adobe/Macromedia have hotfix for all applications by Adobe/Macromedia?

      LUF: Microsoft has been fighting a patent case against Eolas Technologies for a while; the patent office just ruled in favor of Eolas Technologies. As a part of the ruling Microsoft is required to remove a large majority of the Active X technology from Internet Explorer. Microsoft will be releasing a critical hotfix on April 11 via Windows Update that when applied will remove IE's capability to use many Active X controls. This will probably break a lot of web applications/ web sites. (The ability to automatically open a quicktime movie, shockwave flash applet, or PDF in Internet Explorer may be impaired until these vendors re-release their software packages.) On April 11 Microsoft will release an additional, optional tool that when applied will allow Active X controls to function as normal for a 60 day window of time. Microsoft has also released a tool that website owners/developers can use to determine if any of their website functionality will be affected by the update. The official bulletin is attached below; I'm planning on sending this out to the sites shortly to give them time to determine the impact to their environment. Please let me know if you think that there is any additional information that I should add to the bulletin before sending it to the sites..
        • 1. Re: ActiveX
          Level 7
          search forums first - this has been asked nearly everday for the past month. Here are the same links
          that get posted here - hope they help:
          http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ (found by typing "eolas" in the macromedia search box)
          http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912945/en-us

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          sudsburg wrote:
          > Will Adobe/Macromedia have hotfix for all applications by Adobe/Macromedia?
          >
          > LUF: Microsoft has been fighting a patent case against Eolas Technologies for
          > a while; the patent office just ruled in favor of Eolas Technologies. As a
          > part of the ruling Microsoft is required to remove a large majority of the
          > Active X technology from Internet Explorer. Microsoft will be releasing a
          > critical hotfix on April 11 via Windows Update that when applied will remove
          > IE's capability to use many Active X controls. This will probably break a lot
          > of web applications/ web sites. (The ability to automatically open a quicktime
          > movie, shockwave flash applet, or PDF in Internet Explorer may be impaired
          > until these vendors re-release their software packages.) On April 11 Microsoft
          > will release an additional, optional tool that when applied will allow Active X
          > controls to function as normal for a 60 day window of time. Microsoft has also
          > released a tool that website owners/developers can use to determine if any of
          > their website functionality will be affected by the update. The official
          > bulletin is attached below; I'm planning on sending this out to the sites
          > shortly to give them time to determine the impact to their environment. Please
          > let me know if you think that there is any additional information that I should
          > add to the bulletin before sending it to the sites..
          >
          >
          • 2. Re: ActiveX
            Level 7
            > search forums first - this has been asked nearly everday for the past
            month.

            Sure, and everytime in a breathless "holy cow have you guys *seen* this
            yet..." kinda way. Ho hum

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            • 3. Re: ActiveX
              Level 7

              I have to keep reminding myself that the web forums' search feature isn't very efficient and users
              may actually be searching and not finding anything relavant. I can search the google groups archive
              on a specific subject and get hundreds and sometimes thousands of returns but when i use the web
              forum to search for the exact same keyword(s) i get maybe a handful of returns with only 1 or 2
              being the actual answer or no returns at all.

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              Peter Blumenthal wrote:
              >>search forums first - this has been asked nearly everday for the past
              >
              > month.
              >
              > Sure, and everytime in a breathless "holy cow have you guys *seen* this
              > yet..." kinda way. Ho hum
              >
              • 4. Re: ActiveX
                Level 7
                Fair point chris - I exclusively use a newsreader, so have no problem with
                searching. Sudsburg - no offence meant, just an attempt at a humorous
                dig....

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                • 5. Re: ActiveX
                  Level 7
                  I agree with you though peter - not saying Sudsburg is at fault - but it's amazing when the same
                  question gets asked with an hour or 2 of another post owith the same issue - and the 2 threads are
                  almost next to each other LOL.

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                  Peter Blumenthal wrote:
                  > Fair point chris - I exclusively use a newsreader, so have no problem with
                  > searching. Sudsburg - no offence meant, just an attempt at a humorous
                  > dig....
                  >
                  • 6. Re: ActiveX
                    sudsburg Level 1
                    how can we deal with this code with embed

                    <object classid="clsid 27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase=" http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0" width="100" height="22" title="ASP - Army Suggestion Program">
                    <param name="BGCOLOR" value="">
                    <param name="movie" value="buttonASP.swf">
                    <param name="quality" value="high">
                    <embed src="buttonASP.swf" quality="high" pluginspage=" http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100" height="22" ></embed>
                    </object>
                    • 7. Re: ActiveX
                      Level 7
                      sudsberg,
                      the best way I have found is:
                      http://blog.deconcept.com/flashobject/

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                      sudsburg wrote:
                      > how can we deal with this code with embed
                      >
                      > <object classid="clsid 27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
                      > codebase=" http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#ve
                      > rsion=5,0,0,0" width="100" height="22" title="ASP - Army Suggestion Program">
                      > <param name="BGCOLOR" value="">
                      > <param name="movie" value="buttonASP.swf">
                      > <param name="quality" value="high">
                      > <embed src="buttonASP.swf" quality="high"
                      > pluginspage=" http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Vers
                      > ion=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100"
                      > height="22" ></embed>
                      > </object>
                      >
                      >
                      • 9. Re: ActiveX
                        Level 7
                        true - but only if you dont need detection as well correct? (it seems anyway).




                        Jeckyl wrote:
                        > this seems much simpler ...
                        >
                        > http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=194&threadid=11259 16#4070812
                        >
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                        • 10. Re: ActiveX
                          Level 7
                          > Will Adobe/Macromedia have hotfix for all applications by
                          > Adobe/Macromedia?

                          You can't have a fix for something that isn't broken .. its just changed.

                          As a result, you will be able to change your html so that it does not
                          require activation in the new IE

                          For example, see
                          http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=194&threadid=11259 16#4070812

                          It is certainly possible that one could write a little application that
                          applies the above technique to a web page HTML for you automatically.

                          > Microsoft will be releasing a critical hotfix on April 11 via
                          > Windows Update that when applied will remove IE's
                          > capability to use many Active X controls

                          That is just untrue .. it does NOT remove IE's ability to use ActiveX
                          controls at all. This sort of comment promotes panic.

                          It will not break web sites .. but will change how they operate.

                          Jeckyl


                          • 11. Re: ActiveX
                            Level 7
                            I agree - and I find that when confronted with this change, the SWF actually does run/play - you
                            just can't interact with it until you click on it once. So it's not that big of a deal (to me
                            anyway). Go to a site with flash content, see the content play (expected) and if it requires
                            interactivity, then you must click on it to activate it - and you were going to want to click on it
                            anyway.
                            I agree with Jeckyl, nothing is broken here - just changed, and personally not in a very big way.

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                            Jeckyl wrote:
                            >>Will Adobe/Macromedia have hotfix for all applications by
                            >>Adobe/Macromedia?
                            >
                            >
                            > You can't have a fix for something that isn't broken .. its just changed.
                            >
                            > As a result, you will be able to change your html so that it does not
                            > require activation in the new IE
                            >
                            > For example, see
                            > http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=194&threadid=11259 16#4070812
                            >
                            > It is certainly possible that one could write a little application that
                            > applies the above technique to a web page HTML for you automatically.
                            >
                            >
                            >>Microsoft will be releasing a critical hotfix on April 11 via
                            >>Windows Update that when applied will remove IE's
                            >>capability to use many Active X controls
                            >
                            >
                            > That is just untrue .. it does NOT remove IE's ability to use ActiveX
                            > controls at all. This sort of comment promotes panic.
                            >
                            > It will not break web sites .. but will change how they operate.
                            >
                            > Jeckyl
                            >
                            >
                            • 12. Re: ActiveX
                              Level 7
                              > true - but only if you don't need detection as well correct? (it seems
                              > anyway).

                              Yes.. all it does is that activation .. the rest of your web page is
                              untouched and works as it did. If you had flash player detection there
                              before, it should still work etc.

                              Flashobject is a nice solution if you want to completely change how you make
                              your web pages and if you need the features it has.

                              But if you already have Flash pages, or you don't want to have to make big
                              changes to existing HTML (as many people are not HTML programmers) then the
                              solution in that forum post I linked to seems ideal.

                              >> http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=194&threadid=11259 16#4070812

                              NOTE: You can add flash player detection etc separately if you need it ..
                              doesn't MM/Adobe has a flash player detection kit that does all that for
                              you?

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                              Jeckyl


                              • 13. Re: ActiveX
                                splendorx
                                Here is a quick script that I wrote:

                                // FUNCTIONS

                                function dynaObj(divID, clsID, objectID, width, height, movie, flashVar1) {
                                var d = document.getElementById(divID);
                                d.innerHTML = '<object classid='+clsID+' id='+objectID+' width='+width+' height='+height+'>'+'<param name= movie value='+movie+'>'+'<param name=quality value=high />'+'<param name=FlashVars value='+flashVar1+' />'+'<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" />'+'</object>';
                                }

                                function detectIE() {
                                //Detect IE5.5+
                                var version=0
                                if (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("MSIE")!=-1){
                                temp=navigator.appVersion.split("MSIE")
                                version=parseFloat(temp[1])
                                }
                                return version
                                }




                                <script language="javascript">
                                // DETECT VERSION OF INTERNET EXPLORER
                                var version = detectIE();
                                // DETERMINE IF INTERNET EXPLORER IS 6 OR GREATER
                                if (version>=6) {
                                // CREATE A DIV
                                document.write('<div id="ticker"></div>');
                                // CREATE A DYNAMIC OBJECT BECAUSE OF EOLAS PATENT
                                dynaObj("ticker", "clsid 27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000", "ticker", "588", "60", "ticker.swf");
                                // CREATE DIFFERENT OBJECT IF BROWSER IS NOT IE 6
                                } else {
                                document.write('<object classid="clsid 27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000"');
                                document.write(' codebase=" http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=7,0,0,0" ');
                                document.write(' id="ticker" width="588" height="60" align="middle">');
                                document.write(' <param name=movie VALUE="ticker.swf"> <param name=quality value=high> <param name=bgcolor value=#000000> ');
                                document.write(' <embed src="ticker.swf" quality=high bgcolor=#000000 ');
                                document.write(' width="588" height="60" name="ticker" align="middle"');
                                document.write(' type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage=" http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer">');
                                document.write(' </embed>');
                                document.write(' </object>');
                                }
                                </script>

                                I would love to see more examples of how other people address this problem. I am quite disappointed that macroadobe has not provided any solutions yet for CF Flash forms/ CFchart, etc.. Did I miss that thread somewhere?

                                Terry
                                • 14. Re: ActiveX
                                  Level 7
                                  look here for a good site with simple solution and links to the various
                                  'official' solutions.

                                  http://activecontent.blogspot.com/
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                                  Jeckyl