5 Replies Latest reply on Apr 4, 2016 10:39 AM by lisar20733302

    Arrange Anchored Objects

    lisar20733302

      I would like to anchor an object (a long plain line) to a text frame but the anchored object keeps appearing on top of the frame, I would like it to be 'arranged' behind. The Arrange options are greyed out. How can I do this?

        • 1. Re: Arrange Anchored Objects
          Document Geek Adobe Community Professional

          Anchored objects always sit on top of text frames. There is no way around it. Sorry!

          • 2. Re: Arrange Anchored Objects
            Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            Hi,

            should the graphic line be positioned behind the text or behind the frame (that is perhaps filled with an opaque color)?

             

            There are three different ways to anchor objects to text.

            "Above Line" will create a type of anchored object where all the text that comes after the anchor character is above the anchored object.
            So you could "stack" the anchored object between the fill of the text frame and the text itself.

             

            Anchor the graphic line in its own paragraph.

            Control the vertical position by using the distance controls for above and below in the anchored object settings.
            You could set the values to positive and negative numbers.

             

            For positioning horizontal you could use the right/left/center align positioning controls.

            You could fine tune the horizontal position by using paragraph insets for all lines or for the first line of the paragraph the anchor character is living in.

            For negative values in horizontal position you could use a helper object you could group with the graphic line that would expand the whole anchored object when aligned center or right.

             

            Here an example from my German InDesign:

             

            AnchoredObject-AboveLine.png

             


            If in doubt, post a screen shot of the text frame and the graphic line with the right position not anchored.
            Show hidden text and show frame edges should be on.

             

            Hope that helps.

             

            Uwe

            • 3. Re: Arrange Anchored Objects
              lisar20733302 Level 1

              A screenshot of the basic idea is here. Pink box contains text and will reflow and yellow box (enlarged to demonstration) must be anchored to it to that moves as needed but is behind the pink box.

              ProperArrangementNotAnchored.PNG

              • 4. Re: Arrange Anchored Objects
                Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                Alright.

                 

                Some ideas to fake it:

                We could use a group of three or four objects and anchor them "Above Line". The left helper and the center helper objects will not have a fill color.

                We could use a helper rectangle grouped to a compound path and anchor the group "Above Line".

                 

                We could use two different anchored objects and anchor them to the left and to the right of the text frame.

                 

                What contents should go into the yellow frame?
                What is its purpose?

                 

                Will the pink text frame be filled with an opaque color?
                Will the yellow text frame be filled with an opaque color?
                If yes, all ideas above could work.

                 

                Uwe

                • 5. Re: Arrange Anchored Objects
                  lisar20733302 Level 1

                  The idea was to have as few of items as possible since the document will be processed for Accessibility and the more small items added the more you have to take out or re-tag. The pink frame would always have text and have a gradient fill (adding complication I know;) ) and the yellow would have no text, just color. I think the most practical solution I have found to balance the prep work with the post-Accessibility tagging in these documents is to use some tables. Though I appreciate the immediate responses and the ideas. Thank you.