1 Reply Latest reply on May 13, 2016 11:35 AM by Dov Isaacs

    Acrobat DC: Doesn't see all font variations installed!

    pixelwrangler Level 1

      Acrobat DC (CC), latest update. Winfdows 7 Pro 64 bit.


      I have the Adobe font Avenir installed on this,machine. It was copied over from my Adobe Font Folio 9 CD. The variations/weights that are seen to be available in editing an Acrobat document are:


      Avenir 35

      Avenir 45

      Avenir 55

      Avenir 65


      Whereas, in all other CC apps that I use on a regular basis (InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop...) the Avenir variations available are seen as:


      Avenir 45 Book

      Avenir 45 Book Oblique

      Avenir 65 Medium

      Avenir 65 Medium Oblique

      Avenir 95 Black

      Avenir 95 Black Oblique

      Avenir 35 Light

      Avenir 35 Light Oblique

      Avenir 55 Roman

      Avenir 55 Oblique

      Avenir 85 Heavy

      Avenir 85 Heavy Oblique


      While I realize that Acrobat DC just uses the Italic button to access those variations, what happened to Avenir 85 (Heavy) and Avenir 95 (Black) ? Why are they not available in Acrobat DC?


      It could not possibly be an embedding issue. Anyone?



        • 1. Re: Acrobat DC: Doesn't see all font variations installed!
          Dov Isaacs Adobe Employee

          This is absolutely not an issue of embedding. And for that matter, since the fonts you are discussing are the old, legacy Type 1 fonts, there weren't any embedding permissions flags in the fonts to concern yourself with.


          The real issue is that for standard Windows applications that don't enumerate their own fonts, font families that have more than just the four regular, italic, bold, and bold italic typefaces are fairly problematic. In order to ensure full compatibility with all applications, font vendors typically do some fairly strange mapping. This mapping is indeed inconsistent with InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop which show you the full and proper font names and styles.


          Acrobat, for better or worse, for the text touch-up editing and forms edit capabilities, has chosen compatibility with the typical enterprise applications for font selection on the basis that these activities are more likely to be performed by Office users as opposed to graphic artists.


          To your point about the full Avenir family from Font Folio 9, the mapping is as follows:


                    Avenir 35 LightAvenir 35 Light

                    Avenir 35 Light,ITALICAvenir 35 Light Oblique

                    Avenir 45 BookAvenir 45 Book

                    Avenir 45 Book,ITALICAvenir 45 Book Oblique

                    Avenir 65 MediumAvenir 65 Medium

                    Avenir 65 Medium,BOLDAvenir 95 Black

                    Avenir 65 Medium,ITALICAvenir 65 Medium Oblique

                    Avenir 65 Medium,BOLDITALICAvenir 95 Black Oblique

                    Avenir 55 RomanAvenir 55 Roman

                    Avenir 55 Roman,BOLDAvenir 85 Heavy

                    Avenir 55 Roman,ITALICAvenir 55 Oblique

                    Avenir 55 Roman,BOLDITALICAvenir 85 Heavy Oblique


          This information comes from the README.txt files in Avenir 1 and Avenir 2 directories of Font Folio 9. Information for such mapping is in the README.txt files for other families as well.


          Hopefully this solves your issue and gives you some background as to what is actually going on here (even if you and I don't particularly like it)!


                    - Dov