24 Replies Latest reply on Jan 10, 2017 7:54 AM by flyok

    empty collections

    flyok Level 1

      I use colections, when I import photos. But after some time (don't exactly know when), some older collections are empty.

      I am sure, I did not remove photos manually from these collectons.

      Is there some catalog setting or bug, which can do it?

      How colud I restore photos whitin these collections. These photos are still on my HD.


        • 1. Re: empty collections
          dj_paige Level 9

          Did you remove the photos in these collections from Lightroom itself?


          Did you re-import the photos in these collections at some time?

          • 2. Re: empty collections
            flyok Level 1

            My answers are No and No :-)

            • 3. Re: empty collections
              Just Shoot Me Adobe Community Professional

              flyok wrote:


              My answers are No and No :-)

              Although you think your answers are No and No can you find some of those images that are supposed to be in the Madrid 2013 collection and check that they are still in LR and that they are still in the same folder on the same drive they were originally in when you made that collection.

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              • 4. Re: empty collections
                flyok Level 1

                Yes, I've found these photos in catalog...

                • 5. Re: empty collections
                  Just Shoot Me Adobe Community Professional

                  flyok wrote:


                  Yes, I've found these photos in catalog...

                  Ok right click on one of them and select Show in Finder/Explorer (which every operating system you are using).

                  Is the image actually on the hard drive?

                  • 6. Re: empty collections
                    flyok Level 1

                    Yes, it is. And I can manually add this photoi to the collection. But I have several empty collections and thousands of photos... :-(

                    • 7. Re: empty collections
                      99jon Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      Right-click on the collection Madrid 2013 and choose “Set as Target Collection”

                      Return to your folder and select all the thumbnails you wish to add to the collection and press “B” on the keyboard.

                      • 8. Re: empty collections
                        flyok Level 1

                        99jon: I have several empty collections, not just only this one.

                        • 9. Re: empty collections
                          dj_paige Level 9

                          Do you have a recent backup of your catalog file which shows the proper number of photos in these collections?

                          • 10. Re: empty collections
                            flyok Level 1

                            I make backup every week, but these (empty) collections are a few yers old. And I import photos every week. So I can't restore old backup of catalog...

                            • 11. Re: empty collections
                              dj_paige Level 9

                              That is irrelevant. If you find a backup with the proper number of photos in the collection, you should be able to export the collection as a catalog to the main current catalog, which I believe would fix the problem.

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                              • 12. Re: empty collections
                                flyok Level 1

                                OK, I'll try it. Hope, I'll find it :-)

                                • 13. Re: empty collections
                                  flyok Level 1

                                  I didn't find backup with photos in this collections.

                                  • 14. Re: empty collections


                                    I have the same problem !

                                    have you solved it ? and if so how?


                                    • 15. Re: empty collections
                                      flyok Level 1

                                      I haven't solved it yet :-(

                                      • 16. Re: empty collections
                                        axmelissarios1 Adobe Employee (Admin)

                                        Hi ichduersiees2012 and flyok,


                                        Are there more than one catalog files on your computer? Search for .lrcat. If there are, try merging them and seeing if the collection repopulates with the photos.


                                        Please let us know what happens.


                                        • 17. Re: empty collections
                                          flyok Level 1

                                          I have only old catalogs from previous LR versions.

                                          • 18. Re: empty collections
                                            Tanuj Sandal Adobe Employee

                                            Hi Flyok,


                                            Could you please let me know since when did you notice that the collections were empty, was it after a Lightroom update?

                                            What is the exact version of Lightroom installed on your computer?

                                            Also, as a best practice I would suggest you to frequently backup the catalogs.


                                            Tanuj Sandal

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                                            • 19. Re: empty collections
                                              flyok Level 1

                                              It could be, but I don't know it exactly.

                                              These collections are 3 years old. I found it when I wanted to view some old photos.

                                              My LR version is the last one (on premise).

                                              I do backup of my catalog once a week.

                                              • 20. Re: empty collections
                                                axmelissarios1 Adobe Employee (Admin)

                                                Hi flyok,


                                                Could you post your System Info here as well? Please go to Help > System Info > Copy or Save As and then paste the info or the link here.


                                                Thank you!

                                                • 21. Re: empty collections
                                                  flyok Level 1


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                                                  • 22. Re: empty collections
                                                    Tanuj Sandal Adobe Employee

                                                    I think so the best option would be to open a backup catalog, and export the collections as a catalog and then reimport in the newer catalog.

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                                                    • 23. Re: empty collections
                                                      wobertc Adobe Community Professional

                                                      If recovering 'old' backups is not possible, I believe the only option is to re-populate the collections by finding images in the folders panel and adding them back to collections.

                                                      All else is futile!

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                                                      • 24. Re: empty collections
                                                        flyok Level 1

                                                        I've tried open one very old catalog (LR4 version). There are some old collections (not all I need) with photos.

                                                        So we can close this topic, I think.

                                                        Thank you for your help.

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