i've seen test video's on youtube, premiere seems to outperform by a decent amount. switching from premiere to vegas (or the other way around) can take some time getting use to the differences. with magix buying vegas, i don't know how much they will change vegas for better or worse. alot of magix software seems like gimic software, so i would hesitate jumping into their version of vegas without seeing reviews first.
sony is moving into their own subscription based software platform with the Catalyst Production Suite. that could be another alternative if you don't mind subscriptions. i think its still kinda new software, so it might still have some limitations or problems. i think they have a demo to try too.
another alternative is davinci resolve. they have added alot of nle functionality and its developing at a fast rate. the free version does have a few limitations but you can try it and figure out if the full version is needed or not. it may not come with as many plugins as premiere or vegas, but some ofx plugin packs are reasonably priced to fill in those functions. sony vegas works with ofx plugins as well, so some plugins can be purchased once and work in both vegas and resolve.
I didn't put this up as a positive plug for Adobe, but you're right I was unimpressed with Vegas 12 performance. Just hoped version 13 is better. As well their promotion is tempting, i.e. Canadian $200, which is equivalent to US $160.
Still playing around with Davinci Resolve, but can't offer any performance nor user comments at this time. At this stage I'm seriously looking for alternatives to Premier Pro as Adobe's marketing approach and silly updates leave me cold.
Thanks for the feedback.
that low price is tempting and you would still have vegas 13 if they screw up 14. i think they added a few features to vegas 13, but performance mostly stayed the same. i would expect magix to update the gui, so it doesn't look and feel like something from winXP days...
i found this page with their offer, it lists some vegas 14 features. Magix Vegas Pro 14 Exclusive welcome offer
VEGAS Pro 14: Sneak peek
- Hardware-accelerated HEVC support
- Native ProRes support
- State-of-the-Art 4K smart upscaling
- and much more!
that hardware accelerated hevc support might be intel graphics based or nvidia, either way it could be very helpful for some. if they have hevc/h265 hardware support they are probably going to have it for h264 as well.
i think vegas 13 added premiere pro .prproj import and export support, so if that works it could be handy for opening archived premiere projects or working with others using premiere. it might also be handy to open a premiere project and then exporting it as fcp xml for other software. i don't know if that will be carried forward into vegas 14 as they might not want to take on the challenge of the continuously changing prproj file format.
if you are looking for another alternative you could also try the top NLE with a free trial of avid's media composer. its also subscription based, but more expensive. its also considered to be one of the most stable platforms, so it may pay for itself over the lost time with adobe's problematic software. i think its also bundled with several third party plugins/programs too.
i took a look at magix's website, turns out they already have a nle around the same price as vegas called MAGIX Video Pro X. it also has some of the new features listed for vegas 14 already. like the hardware accelerated hevc, which appears to be for intel graphics only. its possible they could take features from one nle and add it to the other, but i doubt they will put in the time and money to keep both nle's. if they decide to keep both they might just have separate UI for each nle, but the rest of the software under-the-hood might be the same. you might want to try out the demo of magix video pro X to see how well it works, just in case it becomes vegas 14...
Thanks again for your feedback.
I'm sold, I bought it
Will work on it over the weekend.
Worked on Vegas Pro13 over the past three days and so far am satisfied.
Have to get used to a different approach, but the workflow is somewhat more intuitive than Premier Pro.
No idea at this stage if the hardware acceleration is Intel or NVIDIA - still working on it.
Vegas Pro 13 does have imports for PP etc. as you pointed out, but it would not import recent PP without exceptions.
Still working on it...
Update: Hardware acceleration appears to use NVIDIA GPU and is about the same speed as with PR