Does this happen in 13.7? Have you tried resetting your preferences?
Hello Roei, thank you for responding. I am not sure which version this started from but I think 13.7 is a good estimate and I'm pretty sure it's a built-in feature over being a bug. Does it not happen for you? Try making 20 layers on a comp and lock/unlocking/hide/unhiding some around the top-middle area. They should automatically rollout. I believe I did start noticing it after getting a brand new pc, installing a fresh copy of Windows 10 with a new install of After Effects CC, untouched. I never meddled much with the settings in the past because they work quite well for me, including keyboard shortcuts.
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this is definitely NOT a feature it's not that it's useless, it makes working with layers much worse.
let's see if we are talking about the same thing. here is a composition with many layers:
I press lock or hide and everything looks the same:
so if we are talking about the same thing, there is something wrong with your software.
try resetting the preferences Ctrl+Alt+Press on the launch of you app. other than than please provide screenshots before and after and maybe a video capture if you can and we'll take it from there.
Sweet mother of baboons :O You did it mate!!!
That was it!!! I started up the app while holding down on Ctrl+Alt, there wasn't any notification but that must've reset something under the hood that made the difference!
Otherwise all else is the same since I never messed with the preferences.
I needed to confirm that it wasn't a feature, perhaps AE must've synced an old version's settings which was messing it up. Now it is as you showed on the screenshots, no auto expansion. A million times thanks you were a big help!!! This has been bothering me for too long >.< Hard enough to control mass layered comps as is!
You're Welcome! I believe it's just corrupted text in the preferences file itself. reset just creates a new file instead. you should have known there's something wrong the minute it happened! Ae is complicated enough without things popping up that are unrelated to a feature we used in the first place, so let's not make things harder for us.
I am able to reproduce this problem in After Effects CC 2015.3 (13.8.0 and 13.8.1), and have filed a bug.
This problem, and one that Roei posted about in a different thread, are connected. The bug happens when you are working in a comp that has been pre-composed and that comp contains a layer with audio, when you add a new layer to this comp (any type of layer except cameras or lights), if that layer shouldn't have audio it will gain audio properties anyway. When you click a layer switch (such as solo, lock, motion blur, etc.) these layers with superfluous audio properties will automatically twirl open their properties.
The property-twirling problem doesn't happen for layers that actually have audio. e.g., Footage with audio, or a solid with the Tone effect. It also doesn't happen for layers without audio that are created before the bug conditions occur (pre-composed comp containing a layer with audio).
I found a couple of workarounds for this problem.
The simpler workaround is to add the audio Tone effect to the affected layers, and then disable audio (the little speaker icon switch) for these layers. The problem only occurs on layers that do not have audio, so adding and then muting audio takes the layers out of the bad state.
There is another, more cumbersome workaround that actually removes the superfluous audio properties:
- In the problematic comp, select all layers that have audio.
- Delete (temporarily, it gets undone in step 5) these layers.
- Select all remaining layers (or at least the ones with the superfluous audio properties).
- Enable a layer switch for all of the selected layers, like Solo or Lock. The superfluous audio properties will disappear.
- Undo twice: once to undo toggling the layer switch, and a 2nd time to undo the delete from step 2.
The superfluous audio properties will not return after the undo. Unfortunately, this only solves the problem for existing layers. Adding new layers will still get the superfluous audio properties attached.
Our apologies about the bug. I have asked for it to be fixed in a future release of After Effects.
I also encounter this problem, and it happens on all layers, not only precomposed comps with audio in them. Also my null layers that have tracking data open every time I hide/unhide of lock/unlock them.
Weird thing is that your solution to add a audio tone effect to the nulls does eliminate the problem. Thanks for the work-around!
it's worth mentioning that CC2017 resolved this bug (and introduced others but not as annoying in my opinion)
Good to know, thanks
We usually wait a bit before upgrading to ensure most bugs are removed. We'll test it!
I just came across this too in AE 2015.3 . Awesome to find the fix on the first go! Thanks all.