8 Replies Latest reply on Aug 5, 2016 5:17 PM by Roei Tzoref

    new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!

    Roei Tzoref Adobe Community Professional

      just wanted to share a funny little bug. the shape layer has no audio effect applied, and still it has an audio parameter. it doesn't bother me much, although the last thing I need when I am manipulating shape layers is another toggle to look at in the timeline

       

      these are the steps to recreate the problem in my current workstation:

       

      1. import an audio to your composition - in my example it was WAV format. but you can just add a solid layer with the tone audio effect.

      2.put it inside a composition

      3. pre-comp the master comp (doesn't matter if it's leave attributes or move attributes) and get inside the pre-comp

      4. add a shape layer

       

      these are my current workstation specs:

       

      this happens after I reset my preferences. please share if you are experiencing this bug too.

        • 1. Re: new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!
          Szalam Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Roei Tzoref wrote:

           

           

          this happens after I reset my preferences. please share if you are experiencing this bug too.

          I assume when you say, "share", you don't mean for people to link to this post on Twitter or Facebook. I assume you mean you want them to reply.

           

          Or do you mean you want them to file bug reports? Because you should probably file a bug report

          • 2. Re: new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!
            Roei Tzoref Adobe Community Professional

            Current, bad english. should have written "reply". just want to see if it happens in other systems and maybe someone can shed light on this phenomenon (you never know). and I am the bug report specialist, the Adobe Team has a filter just for my reports/wishes be sure about that , and will do that very soon.

            • 3. Re: new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!
              Szalam Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Roei Tzoref wrote:

               

              Current, bad english. should have written "reply".

              Hey, your English is much better than my...wait, what language is your native tongue? Hebrew? Arabic? Well, your English is better than my attempts would be in either of those!

              • 4. Re: new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!
                Roei Tzoref Adobe Community Professional

                Hebrew thank you S. always nice to be with you in the same thread.

                • 5. Re: new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!
                  Tim Kurkoski Adobe Employee

                  Roei, THANK YOU.

                   

                  We have received reports from many users about a different problem, which we haven't yet been able to reproduce: clicking layer switches (solo, lock, motion blur, etc.) sometimes unnecessarily twirls open a layer's properties.

                   

                  It turns out that this issue is connected to what you just posted about superfluous audio properties. The property-twirling problem only happens on these same layers.


                  The bug happens when you are working in a comp that has been pre-composed and that comp contains a layer with audio, when you add a new layer to this comp (any type of layer except cameras or lights), if that layer shouldn't have audio it will gain audio properties anyway. When you click a layer switch (such as solo, lock, motion blur, etc.) these layers with superfluous audio properties will automatically twirl open their properties.

                   

                  This bug started in After Effects 13.8.0. It still exists in 13.8.1. I have described it in our bug database and will ask for it to be fixed in our next release.

                   

                  The property-twirling problem doesn't happen for layers that actually have audio. e.g., Footage with audio, or a solid with the Tone effect. It also doesn't happen for layers without audio that are created before the bug conditions occur (pre-composed comp containing a layer with audio).

                   

                  I found a couple of workarounds for this problem.

                   

                  The simpler workaround is to add the audio Tone effect to the affected layers, and then disable audio (the little speaker icon switch) for these layers. The problem only occurs on layers that do not have audio, so adding and then muting audio takes the layers out of the bad state.

                   

                  There is another, more cumbersome workaround that actually removes the superfluous audio properties:

                  1. In the problematic comp, select all layers that have audio.
                  2. Delete (temporarily, it gets undone in step 5) these layers.
                  3. Select all remaining layers (or at least the ones with the superfluous audio properties).
                  4. Enable a layer switch for all of the selected layers, like Solo or Lock. The superfluous audio properties will disappear.
                  5. Undo twice: once to undo toggling the layer switch, and a 2nd time to undo the delete from step 2.

                  The superfluous audio properties will not return after the undo. Unfortunately, this only solves the problem for existing layers. Adding new layers will still get the superfluous audio properties attached.

                   

                  In any case, my thanks to you again, Roei, for posting the steps to repro the problem. It was the key for me to discover the cause of another, much more annoying issue.

                  • 6. Re: new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!
                    Roei Tzoref Adobe Community Professional

                    You're Welcome!. I am enjoying this listen, how about a tribute? I dunno...emm take my feature request to the top of the pile? or just put me in a room with the team. hey, if they did this: 5 new and Changed Features in After Effects CC (12.2) That Resulted From Visiting Users in Vancouver, BC | Creative Clou… , what's one feature right???

                     

                    you wrote:

                    The conditions of the bug are this: when you are working in a comp that has been pre-composed, and you add a new layer to this comp (any type of layer except cameras or lights), if that layer shouldn't have audio it will gain audio properties anyway. And these layers with superfluous audio properties are the ones that automatically twirl open.

                    isn't this supposed to be this?: (in bold)

                    when you are working in a comp that has been pre-composed, [and there is a layer with audio in that comp, or you add a layer with audio], and you add a new layer to this comp (any type of layer except cameras or lights), if that layer shouldn't have audio it will gain audio properties anyway. And these layers with superfluous audio properties are the ones that automatically twirl open.

                     

                    I see that in that other thread: Re: After Effects Layer Properties Auto Expands when I click Hide/Unhide/Lock/Unlock  you wrote it more accurately.

                    • 7. Re: new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!
                      Tim Kurkoski Adobe Employee

                      isn't this supposed to be this?: (in bold)

                      Something like that, yeah.

                       

                      I fixed my response here by copy and pasting the relevant paragraph over from that other thread, where I did in fact notice that my description was inaccurate and had edited it. I just didn't bring that edit back here.

                       

                      Thanks for the heads up.

                      • 8. Re: new in After Effects 13.8.1 - Shape layers with audio!
                        Roei Tzoref Adobe Community Professional

                        sure thing, we all make mistakes. I edit my posts 5 times after my original post (sorry, Mods...) and I would have edited 5 times more if it wasn't locked when someone responded...