7 Replies Latest reply on Sep 2, 2016 5:58 AM by SJRiegel

    Keep Options

    michaelk57865067

      I cannot figure out why InDesign refuses to start a new page with a new paragraph. This is just one of many examples where there is plenty of room to close the paragraph, but instead, it pushes it to the next page and creates huge gaps. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!keep options.jpg

        • 1. Re: Keep Options
          TᴀW Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          You've got "keep with next 1 lines" set.

           

          So it's keeping the last two lines of this paragraph with 1 line of the next paragraph.

           

          Set the "keep with next" to 0 and it should be fine.

          • 2. Re: Keep Options
            michaelk57865067 Level 1

            Interesting, thanks so much. I was thinking unchecking "Keep with Previous" was the same as putting 0 in the box, but I was wrong.

            • 3. Re: Keep Options
              Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              michaelk57865067 wrote:

              … I was thinking unchecking "Keep with Previous" was the same as putting 0 in the box, but I was wrong.

              Hi Michael,

              that's simply a bug.
              That should be fixed.

               

              I'd report it here:

              Wishform - Adobe InDesign

               

              Regards,
              Uwe

              • 4. Re: Keep Options
                Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

                Uwe,

                 

                Why do you say that's a bug? Keep with previous is a different logic then keep with next, and the two do not affect one another directly. I can easily see a case where you have a paragraph style that requires the paragraph to remain with the body text paragraph immediately before it but you don't want that earlier paragraph to have a keep option to always keep with the following text.

                 

                I view it like fastening two boards together with screws. Keep with next drives the screws from board one into board two; Keep with previous drives the screws from board two into board one. They are neither mutually exclusive nor mutually required -- you can drive the screws from either side, or both, depending on your need.

                • 5. Re: Keep Options
                  Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  Ah Peter,

                  you are right.

                   

                  Maybe I've seen the two options always grouped together:
                  My fault. I certainly have to rethink.

                   

                  Thanks,
                  Uwe

                  • 6. Re: Keep Options
                    Obi-wan Kenobi Adobe Community Professional

                    Sample:  A table with its title as a second para below!

                     

                    Sometimes, we'll have tables without title! … But we never won't have a title without table! 

                     

                    So, the good choice could be:

                     

                    Table para: no "Keep"

                    Title: "Keep Previous"

                     

                    (^/)

                    • 7. Re: Keep Options
                      SJRiegel Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      Because of the way those two options are placed in the dialog box, Keep with Next ___ Lines looks like a subset of Keep with Previous. This is not the first time I have seen a user on here make that assumption.